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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Judith has found a likely death for Janet above, but I wondered about this as another poss. From Ryerson.

I noted the electoral roll refers to Janet as JANNIE in 1930 per Judith


GOLD Jane (Janey) Death notice 17MAR1969 Death aged 88   Sydney Morning Herald 18MAR1969

Now it does make her a young mother for Andrew, but just possible.  ;D
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 18:19 BST (UK) »
Good Morning,

Wow! Everyone has been very busy down under... sleeping on an issue really does work  ;)

OK on to business… I too had discovered the 1936 Australian Electoral Roll listing both Nathaniel Gold and his wife Janet Gold. This is how I definitively knew that Janet had also made the trek to Australia; however, I did not have the 1930 Election Roll. Thank you!

The 1894 marriage record for Nathaniel Gold and Janet Black lists Janet’s parents as Adam Black (deceased) and Janet Clelland (deceased).  Janet Black was 23 yrs when she married Nathaniel.  Perhaps her parents died when she was an infant and James and Euphemia raised her?  On that note I quickly did a search of the 1881 Scottish Census and what do you know…

Dwelling: Clyde Street, Carluke, Lanark, Scotland
Adam Black; Border; Unmarried; 36; M; Slater; Lanark, Lanark, Scotland
Euphemia Black; Wife; Married; 31; F; Wife; Lanark, Lanark, Scotland
James Black; Head; Married; 32; M; Slater; Lanark, Lanark, Scotland
Janet Black; Daughter; n/a; 9; F; Scholar; Lesmahagow, Lanark, Scotland

It would now seem very plausible that the 1946 death record found by Judith is in fact my Janet Black.  I will order the record from the NSW Registrar and let you know what it comes back with.

As for Euphemia (Effie) Macpherson GOLD b.1895 and Natalie (Nathaniel) Oman Gold b.1907… It is very possible that they did not make the trip to Australia as Euphemia would have been 32 yrs and Natalie would have been 20 yrs in 1927 and possibly already married… The hunt for Euphemia and Natalie continues… ???

A very warm thank you to everyone for your time and assistance… 

Arthur
Gold, Weir, Halliday, Douglas, Blackley, Kilpatrick, French, Dempster, Prentice, Penman, Dempsey, McHale, Lindsay, Brown, Morton, Muir, Allan, Russell

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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 23:25 BST (UK) »
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It would now seem very plausible that the 1946 death record found by Judith is in fact my Janet Black.  I will order the record from the NSW Registrar and let you know what it comes back with.

Are you aware  that you can order certificates from a transcription agent in NSW.

An easier method, quicker and cheaper especially for family history.

I  use Laurie Turtle I  have found him excellent, but it is just a matter of choice.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html

Sorry  see that Judb has allready informed you of  this in reply no 7

Have you  found  any information  re  their immigration to Australia as yet?

Jenn

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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 23:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Arthur,

Nathaniel and his wife did not travel with their children.

They departed London 28 July 1927 aboard the BORDA

GOLD Nat 55 Retired Country of last permant residence Scotland intended permanent residence in Australia last address in UK Dalmore, Helensburgh NB
GOLD Mrs Janet 55 wife "

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 23:59 BST (UK) »
Well found Kris :D

I  wonder why  at  that age  they  decided  to emmigrate?  perhaps  the son Andrew  was allready  here?  or one of  the other children.

Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 00:25 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I am not spotting anything which seems right for the children. There are two other Nathans arriving one born 1894 arriving 1913 the other born 1912 arriving 1913. The marriage mentioned is possibly one of these chaps.  :'(The only arrival I can see for an Andrew of the right age does not seem to fit.

He departed London 7 July 1925 aboard the BALRANALD

GOLD Andrew 27 Farmer English Last address in UK Wall Farm Beabourne Kent.

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 00:29 BST (UK) »
I thought the same thing Jenn, quite old to be immigrating, so I suspected they must be joining a child/children but I am just not seeing anything on the children's arrival. I haven't looked at the Electoral Rolls yet to see how many Andrew GOLD's we have in NSW  :-\
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 01:37 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

Wow! what a flurry of activity... I'm truly impressed!

Kris: Thank you for taking the time to locate the immigration information for Nathaniel and Janet... I had made an attempt many months ago and came up with nothing.  Here in Canada, the government has immigration manifests free on-line... is this the same in Australia?  Also, according to the 1953 NSW death record for Andrew Gold he had resided in Australia for 30 yrs which would put his arrival some time around 1923 which was 4 yrs prior to his parents.

Thank you again everyone for your time and assistance!

Arthur
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Re: Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 01:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Arthur,

Many passenger lists are free Online, some are pay per view.

If you care to peruse the NSW Resources you find listed all the wonderful free resources we are aware of listed. 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369703.0.html

Have Fun  ;D

Cheers Kris  :)
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