Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 Sydney, NSW, Australia *COMPLETED*

[goldnplomp]

Hello,

I am researching the descendents of a Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 and Janet BLACK b.~1871.  Nathaniel, Janet and their three children immigrated from Lanarkshire, Scotland to Australia around 1927.

Nathaniel GOLD died in North Sydney, NSW Australia on May 12, 1940.  According to his death certificate he was buried on May 14, 1940 in the Presbyterian Cemetery Northern Suburbs and there were three children of marriage Effie 43, Andrew 42 and Nathaniel 32 (Living, none Deceased)

I have obtained the death and marriage records for his son Andrew GOLD b.1897 d.1953.  Andrew married a Heather Jean Pym PENNANT b.~1905 in 1927 in Sydney, NSW; however, according to section 8 of Andrew’s death record it stated “no issue” which leads me to believe that Andrew and Heather had no children.  Andrew GOLD was buried in the Congregational Cemetery Gore Hill.

While I have been successful in locating records for Nathaniel and his son Andrew I have been unsuccessful in locating any Australian records for Nathaniel’s wife Janet BLACK b. ~1871 or his other two children Euphemia (Effie) Macpherson GOLD b.1895 or Natalie (Nathaniel) Oman Gold b.1907.

Any direction or assistance anyone can provide would be appreciated.

Thank you for your time and kind consideration.

Arthur

[sparrett]

Hi there,
Is this a possibilty for  a marriage of the younger Nathaniel?

14712/1934  GOLD,  NATHAN to ROSENBERG  LILY D @ SYDNEY 

Sue

[tropicalj]

The National Archives of Australia has a WW2  record for a
 Henry Francis Nathaniel Gold Born in Sydney  but a few years  before  you say  when  the family arrived
I  will not post his date of birh here as he may still be alive.
he enlisted in Sydney and gave his NOK as Nathan Gold.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
search as guest easy to find  the record put on Nathan Gold
Jenn

[goldnplomp]

Hello Sue,

Thank you for your prompt response… It is definitely a possibility so I’ve ordered it from the NSW Registry Office; however, I’m thinking it might be a dead end… Here’s my reasoning:

According to the birth record obtained via the General Register Office of Scotland the individual in question was born as Natalie and listed as Female; however, on the NSW death record for Nathaniel GOLD b.1868 d.1940 (the elder) it refers to the individual as Nathaniel which would lead one to believe the individual is Male?  Hmmm.

Another reason why this might be a dead end is that I have uncovered a number of individuals with the name Nathan GOLD; however in each case the individual has been of Jewish descent.  There is probably a good chance that the Nathan GOLD who married Lily ROSENBERG was of Jewish descent while the Nathaniel/Natalie GOLD I am researching is of Scottish Presbyterian descent.

I have also discovered two death records for a Nathan GOLD on the NSW Registry Office website; one in 1962 and the other in 1963 which leads me to believe there are other individuals with the name Nathan GOLD in NSW at the time.  In both cases the father listed is Morris GOLD.

Thank you for the lead… I will let you know what the marriage record for Nathan and Lily indicates.

Cheers!

Arthur

[goldnplomp]

Hello Jenn,

Thank you for the link and the prompt response…

Henry Francis Nathaniel Gold was born in NSW where my Natalie/Nathaniel was born in Lanarkshire, Scotland; however, I did find a record for his/her brother using your link:

GOLD ANDREW : Service Number - NX139569 : Date of birth - 05 Jul 1898 : Place of birth - CARLUKE SCOTLAND : Place of enlistment - H Q 1 AUST DIV NSW : Next of Kin - GOLD HEATHER

Do you know how and/or if one can obtain these records?

Thank you for your time and kind consideration.

Arthur

[tropicalj]

I am sorry I meant to welcome to RootsCHAT

You have to click on the "Control symbol NX139569" from there you will have to request a copy for about $25.00

Incidently the Ryerson index shows a GOLD Morris Obituary 1919-2004 Death  Horseradish entrepreneur .

Jenn

[tropicalj]

Can I  ask  you  do you  know for a fact  that all  the family  came to Australia in 1927,  my  thoughts are perhaps Janet died in Scotland?

Who was  the informant on  the death certificate for Nathaniel Gold?  It  should state if he married or widowed.   I  checked Norrhern Suburbs  and can see Nathaniel burial  but none of  the other names you mention.  ( I note Andrew was buried in Gore Hill)

Jenn

[judb]

Have you searched the NSW BMD site?  There is the death of a Janet Gold in 1946 in Sydney, parents James and Euphemia. (Janet's mother's name could be a tie-in with the daughter's name - 'Effie'  
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Using a transcription agent for NSW certificates is usually cheaper and quicker than ordering them from the Registry.  these are accredited agents and will email you the results. They are listed on the NSW BMD site:

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent

Cheers, Judith

[judb]

NSW Electoral Roll 1930
Nat (manager) GOLD and Jannie Black GOLD living at 7 Bayview Ave Mosman (a suburb of Sydney)

1936 Electoral Roll
Nathaniel GOLD states 'no occupation' and Janet GOLD at 325 Ernest St Cammeray (also suburb of Sydney.

I only have access to Electoral Rolls for these two years.

Judith