Finding family links TEMPLAR/HANCOCK

[seacat]

Hi,
Can someone please tell me where the following are connected to my
 GG-Grandfather, Stephen Templar b1794 Newton-Banwell , Somerset, England,
Lived at Winscombe Hill Somerset- married Martha Highate Hancock b 1797 d abt 1885.
William Templar b abt 1822 Axbridge- married  Mary Ann.
Martha Hyat Templar b abt  1807 d 1872 Axbridge
Harriet Templar B abt 1804 Axbridge
Or any other information relevant to Stephen Templar or Martha Highate Hancock- would be most gratefully received.
Cheers
seacat

[charlotteCH]

Hi seacat and welcome to rootschat

Maybe they are in the 1881 census- you mention a death in c. 1885 so it would be worth a look.
1881 is online and free to search at  familysearch  site- on the home page the link is on LHS.  That will give you a start.
There is also freebmd site which would gice definte years and locations for bdms.

charlotte

[seacat]

hi charlotteCH,
thanks for replying- re census, have been there done that also looked up BMDs which has added to the puzzle-big time! I'm having trouble connecting the families together other than Stephen Hancock and Martha Hancock.
seacat

[charlotteCH]

OK , sorry for suggesting what you have already checked but it's hard to know what has been looked at etc, and better suggest it than leave the obvious unstated
charlotte

[trish1120]

Hi Seacat,
This is easy to find Census entries for Stephen and Martha 1851/1861/1871 but no luck 1841. On 2 he is born Winscombe and the other Banwell.

1851 Census
Stepha Templar, 57, Martha,55, + children Hannah, 20,Elizabeth, 14, Sarah, 9
HO107/1937/68/3

They have grandson William born 1845, Winscombe, in 1861 Census with them. RG9/1675/56/2
Tracing William back to 1851 Census RG
His Father appears to be William born 1823.
Marriage;
William TEMPLAR
Elizabeth JEFFREY
March 1844
Axbridge 10 517

Even knowing this I can find no corresponding baptism for William 1823 on usual free sources. I was hoping his baptism would lead to other children of Stephen and Martha  and hopefully back from then to link with other Templars you are seeking info on.

1871 Census
RG10/2464/29/6
Stephen TEMPLAR, head, mar,79,labourer
Martha, wife,mar,75
Annie ZELLEY,grand-daug,unm,13
Mellie.S.Zelley,grand-daugh,unm,11 (Name hard to read)
All born Winscombe

Nellie Sarah Zelley has baptism on Freereg 1859 but cant find anything else on them at this stage.

You probably have all this but must admit I am lost with trying to connect this lot without access to baptism datails

Trish

[trish1120]

Found them 1841 , but there are probably children including William 1823 who have left home by this stage;

1841 Census
Winscombe,Somerset
HO107/968/10/Winscombe

John HANCOCK, 79, ag lab
Stephen TEMPLAR, 40, ag lab
Martha, 40
James, 15
Hannah, 10
Soloman, 7
Elizabeth, 4
Sarah, 1                                      All born in County

Cant find any baptisms for any of them

There is a Robert HANCOCK and family, 55, living nearby, possible brother of Martha?


Trish

[Eyesee]

From Winscombe PRs - not sure if you have these

1797 May 21, Martha Highate, d/o John & ?? HANCOCK.

A John HANCOCK married Hannah PARKER 7 Jun 1786
Another John HANCOCK married Flower MARTIN 8 Oct 1787

Martha's parents probably John and Hannah, what with naming one of her daughters Hannah.

1818 Feb 4
TEMPLAR Stephen, otp
HANCOCK Martha, otp, banns
Wits: John HANCOCK, Mary GRANT, James HANCOCK

1819 Mar 14, John, s/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer, born Nov 26 1819 ??
1821 Dec 16, William, s/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer - buried 27 Jan 1823 aged 18mths
1823 Dec 28, William, s/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer, born --pt 26th
1826 Oct 6, James, s/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer
1831 Aug 14, Hannah, d/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer
1834 Jan 26, Soloman Hyatt, s/o Stephen & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer
1837 Jan 8, Elizabeth, d/o Steven & Martha TEMPLAR, Winscombe, labourer

Ian C

[GAJ]

The William Templar baptised in 1822 and marrying Mary ann Lewis was not the son of Stephen Templar.  I have put the entries for Axbridge below:

bap 11 Feb 1817 Charles son of Robert and Jenny (Jane) labourer
bap 13 Jan 1819 Robert son of Robert and Jane
bur 23 Feb 1821 William aged 1
bap 14 Jun 1822 William son of Robert and Jane
bap 24 Feb 1828 Harriet dau of Robert and Jane

bap 3 Jul 1842 Emma Jane dau of Robert and Elizabeth labourer
bap 24 Mar 1844 William son of Robert and Elizabeth
bap

[GAJ]

The William Templar baptised in 1822 and marrying Mary ann Lewis was not the son of Stephen Templar.  I have put the entries for Axbridge below:

bap 11 Feb 1817 Charles son of Robert and Jenny (Jane) labourer
bap 13 Jan 1819 Robert son of Robert and Jane
bur 23 Feb 1821 William aged 1
bap 14 Jun 1822 William son of Robert and Jane
bap 24 Feb 1828 Harriet dau of Robert and Jane
bur 5 Jun 1859 Robert aged 71
bur 2 Nov 1862 Jane aged 82

bap 3 Jul 1842 Emma Jane dau of Robert and Elizabeth labourer
bap 24 Mar 1844 William son of Robert and Elizabeth
bap 17 May 1846 Louisa dau of Robert and Elizabeth
bap 4 Mar 1849 Henry Charles son of Robert and Elizabeth
bur 4 Mar 1849 Louisa aged 2
bap 12 Jan 1851 Frederick son of Robert and Elizabeth
bap 17 Apr 1853 Albert son of Robert and Elizabeth

mar 31 Aug 1851 William Templar son of Robert Templar (both labourers of Axbridge
                             Mary Ann Lewis dau of Henry Lewis labourer of Axbridge
bap 7 Mar 1853 Charles son of William and Mary Ann
bap 28 May 1854 Edward son of William and Mary Ann
bap 21 Mar 1858 Jane dau of William and Mary Ann
bap 6 May 1860 Louisa dau of William and Mary Ann
bap 29 Dec 1861 Alice Mary dau of William and Mary Ann
bap 14 Jan 1866 Emma dau of William and Mary Ann
bap 24 May 1868 William son of William and Mary Ann
bur 14 Oct 1888 William aged 66