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Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« on: Monday 06 July 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone could poiny me in the right direction, I am just starting some research on behalf of my mother-in-law to be.

I am trying to find some details about HENRY HARRISON (born 2nd October 1914 in North Wingfield Derbyshire to Thomas and Frances Harrison). He married in October 1937 in Chesterfield and shortly after enlisted in the SHERWOOD FORESTERS regiment.

And this is where the mystery begins. My mother-in-law knows little else about his service in WWII other than he was capured in the 'far east' and presumed dead. Years later he returned to Derbyshire as a "walking skeleton" and all he would say of his whole experience was that he was sent to work on the Burma Railway, he died having never spoke again of it. :(

Anyway, I have started by getting in touch with the Sherwood Foresters regiment who sent a wonderfully thorough reply back, but had no luck in finding him. Their response is below.

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Thank you for you email regarding Henry Harrison.
 
Unfortunately we do not hold the personal records of officers and soldiers who have served with us. These are held either by the National Archives at Kew or the Army Records Centre Glasgow (depending on when they served). However, we do have a large (although incomplete) data base of officers and soldiers, made up from information taken from hundreds documents, mainly contained within the regimental archives and information provided by family members.
 
I am afraid I have no details on our data base for a Henry Harrison who served with our Regiment for around that time. There has been a book published called "FIRST IN LAST OUT" A history of the 1st/5th Territorial Battalion The Sherwood Foresters 1939-1946 by C. Housley who were captured in Singapore many of them being put to work on the famous railway by the Japanese. Local libraries were given copies and they are often found on the internet. It mentions five Harrison's who were captured but none with the name Henry or even H. There is an A, B, E, Jack and an N.
 
Ideally to trace him you should try to find his army number as Records of Service for soldiers who left the Army after 1920 belong to the Government and are subject to the Data Protection Act.  Information can be released to certain categories of personnel and you should contact the Army Personnel Centre (Historical), Mailpoint 400, Kentigern House, 65 Brown Street, Glasgow G2 8EX.  They will reply providing information free to the ex-soldier or their spouse, but others will be required to pay a fee (currently £30)
 
I am sorry I am unable to be more positive in my reply but wish you every success with any further research you may undertake. If you cannot find a copy of the book you can always make an appointment to visit us here at the archives at Chilwell to read a copy.

I am just wondering what my next step should be, especially if my mother in law doesn't know his army number?  ??? Any help greatfully recieved.

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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 July 09 22:55 BST (UK) »
hi ebor
the sherwood forresters  served at dunkirk then trained in england untiil
early 1942 then were sent to singapore the british surrendered to the japanese in febuary 1942 the men that werent killed became pows
it sounds as if your man became a prisoner of war
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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 01:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your reply, and your interesting information, Gig.

As we thought then, He was definitely a POW, and more than likely worked on the Burma Railway. I only wish I'd have known earlier as my fiancee and I were in Singapore last month! Oh well.

Do you have any ideas as to how we could trace his service record and/or any other titbits of informtation about him?

Thanks again.

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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 21:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Ebor,
           you need to apply online to the Veterans Agency for a Service Record. It is much simpler if you can supply a Service No.
This will probably be in WO 392/24 which is a File at The National Archives that lists prisoners of the Japanese from E - J.

The Service record can be applied for by next of kin or with the permission of the next of kin. There are details elswhere on the Forum on how to apply.

Brian
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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 July 09 23:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much, Brian, I really appreciate it.

I shall investigate how to apply shortly.

Thanks again.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 11:05 BST (UK) »
hi ebor

the 1st/5th,2nd/5th and 9th battalionsjoined the bef, the former as lines of communication troops and the latter 2 as pioneer duties . all 3 of these battalions were totally ill equipped for the operational tasks they eventually had to perform in the retreat to the channel coast.at one period the 2nd,2nd/5th and 9th battalions were together defending the dunkirk parimeter before the successful evacuation.
the 1st/5th battalion after a period of fighting alongside the 51st highland division was evacuated from cherbourg
the 1st/5th battalion after a year in england sailed for the far east ans arrived on the 29th jan 1942
15th feb general percival surrendered with 130,000 men
those of the 1st/5th battalion suffered horrendously at the hands of the japanese while working on the burma siam railway,450 men and officers of this battalion died in captivity
from the above i would hazzard a guess your man was in the 1st/5th battalion
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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 11:41 BST (UK) »
Thats such interesting stuf, gig, thanks ever so much. :)

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:38 BST (UK) »
 ;D your welcome
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Re: Advice please - Sherwood Foresters
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 23:01 BST (UK) »
The Sherwood Foresters numbers were 4,960,001-5,038,000 from 1920

4977977 Pte Henry Harrison last camp he was in was TH=Thailand.

Here are so more from your list

Alfred Harrison Pte 4975309 last camp NA=Nagoya Japan.

Bert.W Harrison Pte 4978106 last camp TH=Thailand.

Ernest Harrison L/Cpl 4981661 last camp TH=Thailand.


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