Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 ... 8

Author Topic: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.  (Read 11589 times)

Offline catanaccio

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 44
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 July 09 13:15 BST (UK) »
Just reading this begs the question, of course, of whether the lady in the "coach and four" was part of the family from the house ... or was related to the supposed father who was supposedly a visitor to the house.

The stories we are told are a little ambiguous ... and seem to get more so as the people recounting them get older and older!!!!

Offline Arranroots

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,377
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 July 09 14:13 BST (UK) »
Hello folks

This one sounds like fun!

Ian - have you got Catherine's marriage certificate, and if so - what does it say?

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

Offline jorose

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 9,926
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 06 July 09 14:20 BST (UK) »
So we have Ann b. 1843 and Elizabeth b. 1846 as the possible mothers.

I would guess that the Meliden parish records would be a good place to look, in case Catherine was baptised by the family when she was taken back to Wales.

Was Elizabeth possibly the one who married Roger Hughes?
see 1871:
RG10/5667 69/30
Roger Hughes, 25, b. Dyserth
Elizabeth, 25, b. ditto
(they possibly married in Liverpool in 1870).

In 1881 they have a "nephew", William Roberts b. about 1862 who I don't know that I can place with your family, though.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline catanaccio

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 44
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 July 09 14:23 BST (UK) »
Hi there, Arranroots.  

"Fun" is certainly one word for it ... "frustrating" and "mystifying" are among the ones we have used more regularly, though!!!!!

Yes, we have Catherine's marriage certificate.

14 Oct 1896, St. Thomas' Church, Rhyl.

Herbert Jones, age 29, bachelor, a labourer, Rhyl, son of Herbert Jones, a labourer.

Catherine Morgan, age 26, spinster, Rhyl, daughter of William Morgan, a carrier.

Witnessed by Thomas Morgan and Elizabeth Morgan.

Offline Arranroots

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,377
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 06 July 09 14:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ian - Gadget's assumption was correct then - just checking as it hadn't been explicitly stated.

Will have another look this evening, if you haven't cracked it by then!

Kind regards, Arranroots (out to lunch)

 ;D
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

Offline Meriel

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 201
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 06 July 09 14:52 BST (UK) »
How about looking for newspaper reports of the fire? If a son-of-a-nobleman was killed I expect it would have been reported.
smith : leage : emerson : anderton : hart : boyce : baker : weaver :
penycate : greenway : taylor : wellbelove : bulmer : fanning : turnham : whitehouse

Offline Arranroots

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,377
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:13 BST (UK) »
Good idea Meriel!

Ian, to save some time - Catherine's place of birth in 1881 is Rhyl - is this consistent in later censuses?

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 57,897
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Arranroots on Monday 06 July 09 18:13 BST (UK)
Good idea Meriel!

Ian, to save some time - Catherine's place of birth in 1881 is Rhyl - is this consistent in later censuses?



Hi AR  :)

I noticed that and wondered where the Manchester birth info came from. Unfortunately, I then went off line because of a huge thunderstorm and have only just got back on to this thread.

If she was born Rhyl, Paul will be able to find any possible baptisms  :)


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

***Restorers - Please do not use my restores without my permission. Thanks***

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=877762.0

Offline Arranroots

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,377
    • View Profile
Re: Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:51 BST (UK) »
My concern was identifying the right girl, since MORGAN is such a "popular" name!

(You'll see from my signature that I have my own MORGAN families)

 :)

Note that the 1881 neighbour with a very long name comes from Manchester!

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 ... 8