Help and advice needed on finding a date of birth.

[heywood]

I can see one on Pg 31 but not 315 

As you say though Mold is a way from Dyserth 

Isn't it frustrating because in reality we don't know what name the child was going under in 1871 or registered 

[Gadget]

ooops - yes it was page 31 - I'll go modify

Can't see any other likely ones in the broad area or in North Wales 

Any sign in the 1881?

[heywood]

not that I can see - in Manchester area anyway.

Have looked for Gertrude/Catherine Rowley - nothing -so even if she isn't Catherine Morgan- she isn't Gertrude Rowley either by the looks of it 

[alpinecottage]

I have found the following references to Rowley in the North Wales newspaper:  On 29 May 1869, Mrs Rowley presided over the wedding of her son, Capt Conwy Hercules Rowley to Miss Harford at her (Mrs R's) family home called Bodrhyddan in Dyserth.  The family had been living abroad until 2 weeks before the wedding.  On 29 June 1870, the Honourable Mrs R died near Naples, .  She had been the wife of Col R T Rowley, married in 1835 and "had issue, according to the newspaper".  Col. the Honourable Richard Rowley married in 1872 and there was a Miss Rowley, too.  The Rowleys were a big Army, local businessmen, sitting-on-various-boards type of family.

Does this sound interesting - right area, name of local "nobility", sons the correct age for molesting servants....

I got this off Gale, 1869-1875, North Wales Chronicle

[wifeywebb]

Sounds very interesting, Alpine cottage!!

But how to prove the whole darn thing............

Urmm, that marriage doesn't appear on freebmd??

[alpinecottage]

The actual marriage was in London, St Geo Han Sq, 2nd Q 1869, Marian Harford to Conway Grenville H Rowley.

[heywood]

Ooooo... sounds very interesting  

Here is Conwy Rowley Conwy in 1881  (a magistrate)

 RG11; Piece: 5527; Folio: 126; Page: 42

Now I,too ,am convent educated and am trying to use tact and good taste here- if the family were abroad until the wedding - would Conwy have been around at the appropriate time?

heywood

[heywood]

The actual marriage was in London, St Geo Han Sq, 2nd Q 1869, Marian Harford to Conway Grenville H Rowley.

perhaps I have the wrong person then 

[wifeywebb]

OK, I was looking for it in Wales??? That'll teach me!!!

So, back to Gertrude - has she been found in any census other that 1891?