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Re: Looking for Holmes family.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 12 July 09 12:56 BST (UK) »
I was looking at family trees for this family and they have Jean/Jane as Jane THIRWALL, but no one has the marriage.

Found it ;D

John HOLMES
Jane THIRLWELL
December 1857
Newcastle Tyne
10b 179

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 July 09 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish

John's birthplace is most likely Burnopfield in Co. Durham - just a wee bit up the Tyne from Gateshead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnopfield

Did you find anything on Robert's siblings on the tree that you found. Apart from sister Jane marrying Robert Alder, I can't find any definites.

YGD is very keen to find them and their descendants.


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Re: Looking for Holmes family.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 July 09 14:01 BST (UK) »
Sorry, nothing usefull re siblings on Tree :(
I will have another scout around tomorrow.

John Holmes 1827, christening is on the IGI, 1827, Tanfield + siblings.

Think this is the marriage of Thomas and Ann;
Thomas HOLMES
Ann TURNER
14 May 1820, Tanfield, Durham, England

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 July 09 14:45 BST (UK) »
As I can't find the other sibs so far, a bit more about Jane with more children:

1901
Newminster, Morpeth
RG13/4831/97/1

Alder
Robert, 43, Foreman Iron Moulder, b. Spittal
Jane A, 41, b. Whittonstall
Elizabeth, 14
Robert, 13
John T H, 11
Joseph H, 8
Eneas S, 2

all children b. Morpeth
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 July 09 15:01 BST (UK) »
Just to confirm the Thirlwall/Thirlwell surname:

Robert's elder brother,John T's birth reg:

John Thirlwall Holmes, Dec q, 1964, Morpeth, vol 10b, page 273


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PS - Trish, I think the tree that you've been looking at was  ygathddu's  :)
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 12 July 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
a probable marriage for John T H Alder (Robert's nephew) to Nona Elliott

Mar q, 1921, Morpeth, vol 10b, p 834

and Joseph H Alder to Janet Gibson:

Mar q, 1925, Newcastle, vol 10b page 207

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 July 09 15:49 BST (UK) »
Free BMD are showing two female Alder/Elliott births - 1922 (Auckland) and 1923 (Morpeth). I think the 1923 is a definite because of the name.

I can't give the information because the person might still be alive.


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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 July 09 15:51 BST (UK) »
Likewise for Alder/Gibson -

1925 (female) and 1930 (male) - Morpeth
1940 (male) Northumberland C


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Re: Looking for Holmes family.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 July 09 20:36 BST (UK) »
When I looked at this last night there was nothing - see what happens when I go out for the day!

Not that I'd have been much good as most people on here can search online much more quickly and successfully than I can BUT I am probably going to Northumberland Archives in the next week or so - maybe Wed. or Fri.  I only have a couple of things I want to do so if there's anything crops up that can be checked out there let me know.

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