Looking for Holmes family.

[ygathddu]

Hi !
My great grandfather Robert Little Holmes was born in Mitford , Morpeth August 1870 .
Through the 1871 census, I have managed to find his parents and his family at that time:

John Holmes  b1827 Burnapfield
Jane Holmes  b1835 [ couldn't make this out on census, looks like Hirchamston?

Jane A Holmes                b1860   Wittonstall
Mary E Holmes                b 1863  Mitford
John [T] Holmes                 b 1865 Mitford
Elizabeth Holmes             b 1868 Mitford
Robert Little Holmes        b1870 Mitford
Isabella Holmes [ niece]  b 1856 Burnapfield

The birth dates are approximate based on the census .
I did check the 1911 census , where I found my great grandfather , but could only find what could be his sister on that. And these are the details:
ELIZABETH  Holmes       SINGLE    43     HOUSEKEEPER     born NORTHUMBERLAND MITFORD
At the time of the 1911 census Elizabeth was living at TOWN FARM HIGH CALLERTON PONTELAND

Just wondering whether there are any relatives on roots.chat.

[Gadget]

Hi again YGD 

Have you got the family in any of the intervening censuses - 1881-1901 or checked for deaths/marriages on freeBMD?


Ref for the 1871 for  others who may help:

RG10/5162/26/12


Gadget

[Gadget]

In 1881, Robert seems to be away from the family. So far, I've not located him and will do a wider search:

Howlet Hall, Low Angerton
RG11/5113/21/14

Holmes
RobertJohn, 52, woodman, b. Durham, Burnopfield
Mary, 38, b. Nthbld, Morpeth
Elizabeth, 13, b. Nthbld, Morpeth
Margaret, 7, b. Nthbld, Morpeth
Lillie Agnes, 4, b. Nthbld, Morpeth
Annie, 2, b. Nthbld, Bolam
Mark, 2 mths, b. Nthbld, Howlet


It looks as if Jane has died and RobertJohn has a new wife.


Gadget

added - Robert originally typed instead of John 

[Gadget]

 

I've found him in Warwickshire with his Uncle, Robert Little:

11 Cricks Road Wharf, Hillmorton, Warwks
RG11/3080/2/18

Little
Robert, 53, carpenter, b. Cumberland, ?
Elizabeth, 51,  b. Cumberland, ?
John, 27, caqrpenter,  b. Cumberland, ?
Samuel Wolfe, s-in-l, 21, coal dealer, b. Wks, Hillmorton
Mary Ann Wolfe, daugh, 21, b. Nthbld, Percy Main
Elizabeth Ann Wolf, grddau, 8 mths, b. b. Wks, Hillmorton
Robert Little Holmes, nephew, 10, scholar, b. Nthbld, Morpeth
Hugh Brown, lodger, 18, tin smith, b. Scotland, Glasgow


Gadget

[Gadget]

His mother, Jane Holmes,  died in March q, 1874, Morpeth, vol 10b, p 228. Aged 39

I'm assuming that Robert's siblings (other than Elizabeth) were living independently or with other relatives so will have another look around.


Gadget

[Gadget]

Sister, Jane A  in 1881:

Newgate Street, Morpeth
RG11/5114/85/3

Ashton
Edward, 25, baker & confectioner, b. Morpeth
Ann, 26, b. Sussex, St Leonards
Eliza Mercy, 1, b. Morpeth
George William, 3 mths, b. Morpeth
Harriott, 3 mths, b. Morpeth
Sarah Jane Ashdown,relative, vistor, 30, visitor, b. Sussex, St Leonards
Jane Ann Holmes, servant, 20, servant, b. Nthbld, Wittonstall


Gadget

[Gadget]

Jane Ann Holmes married March q, 1886, Morpeth, vol 10b page 382

Husband was Robert Alder. She appears with him on the 1891, still in Morpeth:

55 Newgate St, Morpeth
RG12/4254/101/11

Alder
Robert, 33, Iron moulder, b. Nthbld, Spittal
Jane A, 31
Elizabeh, 4
Robert, 3
John T H, 1

all but Robert, b. Morpeth


Gadget

[Gadget]

This might well be sister Mary in 1881

194 High Street East (British Empire*), Sunderland
RG11/5002/113/3

Brown
Dixon, 31, spirit merchant
Jane, 31, b. Morpeth
Margaret, 8, b. Newcastle
Minnie, 5,  b. Newcastle
Jane, 2,  b. Newcastle
Mary A Holmes, servant, 19, general servant domestic, b. Morpeth

Mary's initial is different but it's worth putting this on the  possibles list

* I presume that the British Empire was a pub 


Gadget


Added - Mary E is being a wee bit difficult. There are three possibles b. Morpeth 1862/1863 on the 1901 -  surnames Finchen, Newton and Bartis 


~ so is John (T) - a possible in Newcastle Industrial School in 1881 but b. Newcastle   

[trish1120]

HOLMES

1861 Census
RG9/3856/34/6
West End,
Whittonstall, Northumberland

John HOLMES, 34, head mar, wood man, Burmpfiield /Durham
Jean, 26, wife, mar, born Cumberland/Outerby?
Elizabeth, 2, daug, unm, Whittonstall
Jean.A.,1, daug, unm, Whittonstall

EDIT again, I'd  typred in wrong name

1851 Census
HO107/2389/42/39
Tanfield, Durham

Thomas HOLMES, 55, mar, woodsman, Durham/Medomsley
Ann, 60, wife, mar, Durham/Shieldow
JOHN, 24, son, unm, woodsman, Burmpfield/Durham
Mary.A., 19, daug, unm, Burmpfield
Wm Smith, 31,lodger,unm,joiner

Trish