Police Inspector in Dublin

[tulipoo]

It could be me, but I have been trying to access info in Dublin to get some
detail on a Police Inspector there in the early 1800's. His name was either
Fowler or Collins.
I can't get anywhere with my searching-can anyone point me to a site please.
Thanks, Ian

[sio59]

Ian,

Have a look at this website where you will find contact details for the museum and archives.

www.esatclear.ie/~garda/museum.html

Do you have a christian  name for your Inspector?

Siobhan

[corisande]

The Dublin Metropolitan Police (DMP) was the police force of Dublin, Ireland, from 1836 to 1925, when it amalgamated into the new Garda Síochána.

This book has the complete list of officers and men in the DMP , The Dublin Metropolitan Police, A complete alphabetical list of officers and men, 1836-1925 by Jim Herlihy you should be able to get or order it from your local library as it is a modern book (you could buy it )

[mcmahongg]

Ian

I have Jime Herlihy's excellent books. I did some lookups - see below. You would need more information to identify the correct person - there are a lot of Collins entries present.

Once you have the Service Number in the RIC or DMP, you can look up the RIC registers at National Archives - Dublin or Kew. The LDS have microfilmed these records - Jim Herlihy's book gives LDS references also. I can look these up for you if it's possible to narrow down the person in question.

I hope this helps.

best regards

Gerry McMahon
Dublin


- Jim Herlihy, The Dublin Metropolitan Police: Alphabetical List -
Fowler: two entries
Patrick Fowler, DMP 4961, born 1827, Lucan, Co. Dublin; Ex-RIC 8842.
Thomas Fowler, DMP 1213, born 1811, Inishmacsaint, Co. Fermanagh; Ex-Revenue Police
Collins:
38 entries; none born in Dublin.

- Jim Herlihy, The Royal Irish Constabulary: Alphabetical List -
Collins: about 150 entries
Fowler: 21 entries
This book doesn, give any more info other than name and RIC Service Number.

- Jim Herlihy, Royal Irish Constabulary Officers: Biographical Dictionary -
Fowler - no entry
Collins - one entry:
Charles Collins, RIC Service No. 52125, born 25/6/1865, Ardee, Co. Louth. Married 8/1/1919 Jane E. Brabazon a native of Co. Longford.
Detective Inspector (3rd) 10/5/1905. Pensioned 1/8/1920.
[Refs for birth & marriage given as well as ID for LDS RIC Records Microfilm]

[mcmahongg]

Ian

I have Jim Herlihy's excellent books. I did some lookups - see below. You would need more information to identify the correct person - there are a lot of Collins entries present.

Once you have the Service Number in the RIC or DMP, you can look up the RIC registers at National Archives - Dublin or Kew. The LDS have microfilmed these records - Jim Herlihy's book gives LDS references also. I can look these up for you if it's possible to narrow down the person in question.

I hope this helps.

best regards

Gerry McMahon
Dublin


- Jim Herlihy, The Dublin Metropolitan Police: Alphabetical List -
Fowler: two entries
Patrick Fowler, DMP 4961, born 1827, Lucan, Co. Dublin; Ex-RIC 8842.
Thomas Fowler, DMP 1213, born 1811, Inishmacsaint, Co. Fermanagh; Ex-Revenue Police
Collins:
38 entries; none born in Dublin.

- Jim Herlihy, The Royal Irish Constabulary: Alphabetical List -
Collins: about 150 entries
Fowler: 21 entries
This book doesn't, give any more info other than name and RIC Service Number.

- Jim Herlihy, Royal Irish Constabulary Officers: Biographical Dictionary -
Fowler - no entry
Collins - one entry:
Charles Collins, RIC Service No. 52125, born 25/6/1865, Ardee, Co. Louth. Married 8/1/1919 Jane E. Brabazon a native of Co. Longford.
Detective Inspector (3rd) 10/5/1905. Pensioned 1/8/1920.
[Refs for birth & marriage given as well as ID for LDS RIC Records Microfilm]

[Brendan Joseph]

I wonder is there any reference to my grand uncle James O'Donoghue, born Kerry 1874, trained in Dublin, shot dead in Whites Street, Cork 1920 RIC Sargent.

Brendan

[corisande]

The cork policeman is on this Wikipedia page. You are best off doing a new thread in Cork if you want to know more

[mcmahongg]

Brendan

Jim Herlihy, "The Royal Irish Constabulary, A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers Men 1816-1922", lists five 'James O'Donoghue'e entries -

James O'Donoghue, 16415, 1852-53
James HH O'Donoghue, 23796, 1858-59
James O'Donoghue, 39333, 1872-75
James O'Donoghue, 46953, 1879-81
James Ernest O'Donoghue 70235, 1917-20

I've listed these in the format:
Name, RIC Service Number, Entry period to which this Service Number corresponds.

Using the Service Number it's possible to look up the man's service record at the National Archives. There are LDS films of the service records - the book gives references for these too.

I hope this helps

best regards

Gerry McMahon

[tulipoo]

Hi Gerry,
Thanks for the information.
Patrick Fowler is our man.  I have passed the details to my friend in
UK and will come back to you if he needs any more help.
Again thanks,
Ian