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This is becoming an obsession - sorry
« on: Friday 03 July 09 15:37 BST (UK) »
 I am still trying to trace my grandfather's whereabouts between his birth in 1883 and his marriage in 1902.  For all you people who are saying 'not again' I do apologise but this is now becoming something of an obsession.  My grandfather left home when my father was aged 10 so we knew very little about him.  I have now managed to discover quite a lot but would like to fill in the gaps if possible - rather long winded but here goes:
Born 1883 in Gorton, Manchester, illegitimate son of Elizabeth Callister domestic servant.
1902 - Married to Martha Alice Cheetham St George's Parish Church, Tyldesley, Lancashire - address on cert. 19 Bank Street Tyldesley.
Between 1906 and the 1911 census he lived at 3 different addresses in Tyldesley.
1911 - Lodging with a family called Simm  13 Herbert Street St Helens.
1913/1914 - 12 Herbert Street St Helens with rest of his family.
Sept. 1913 - joined Cheshire Regiment - October of that year discharged as 'medically unfit' but I think he must have re-enlisted at a later date when they weren't so fussy as he eventually was awarded an Army Pension.
1919-1923 - living at 33 Bank Street, Tyldesley (where my grandmother remained until her death)
In 1923 he was reported missing and a body pulled out of the local canal was identified as him and a death certificate was issued and a burial carried out.  He was subsequently found alive in Manchester early in 1927 and admitted to The Leigh Union Hospital where he remained until June of that year whilst steps were made to have his pension restored.  He died in July of 1946 in Prestwich Union Hospital Delaunays Road Crumpsall and was buried in Philips Park Cemetery in a Public grave.  I have been able to visit this and place a memorial cross there but would like to fill in the gaps prior to his marriage as it
is almost as if he never existed.  If anyone comes across him on any census searches and could let me know I would be very grateful.  Also if anyone has any electoral records for the Ancoats area of Manchester (at the time of his death his home address was 64 Hood Street Ancoats) and discovers him I would be very grateful to have details.
For all of you who haven't lost the will to live and have persevered to the end of this episode of 'War and Peace' thank you so much.
Blower, Blakeley, Callister

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Re: This is becoming an obsession - sorry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:01 BST (UK) »
Dear Will-o-wisp, what was his name?    ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:12 BST (UK) »
Dear Will-o-wisp, what was his name?    ;D ;D ;D

What a plonker - all that info and no name - sorry Herbert Callister
Blower, Blakeley, Callister

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:14 BST (UK) »
Just to save any duplication this thread also concerns Herbert

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,389560.0.html

Evie
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: This is becoming an obsession - sorry
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

According to An****ry there is a Herbert Callister on the New York and Boston passenger list 1820 -1943. I cant access them but there may be someone on here who can check them for you.

Did wonder about the name  ;D ;D

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think the one you saw Jan was Herbert C Callister but his arrival date was 1910. I think it is a different guy.

Still cannot find Herbert on the 1891, 1901 census though :-\

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Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:48 BST (UK) »
Other Herbert Callisters on the shipping lists have the wrong birthpace

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MOXHAM/MOXAM - Wiltshire & Surrey
SKEATS - Surrey
BRETT - Kent & County Durham
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SWINBANK - anywhere

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:53 BST (UK) »
Other Herbert Callisters on the shipping lists have the wrong birthpace

Linda

I am as sure as can be that he would not be on any shipping list - I have been able to trace him from the date of his marriage through the birth certificate of my father and his siblings.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 09 02:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have you looked at Eliza Callister married Apr - Jun 1896 Toxteth Park?

Others on list:Annie Laird
                      William Brown Laird
                      Charles John Poynter
Index: 8b 365.

Could Herbert temporarily as a young child have had his surname changed to fot with  a stepfather?

Just a thought.

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