Myrthyr Tydfil - Powells

[Eddo]

Thanks Osprey,
Now that I'm starting to get my head around who goes where on this tree, it seems to get a little easier.
However, finding the information isn't quite so easy.
I'm trying to get as much done as I can before the end of July, because one of my daughters is heading to the UK, and I'm going to put together a list of people/places for her to find where she can get direct access to records - be that London or Cardiff. She may also have to go off the beaten track a bit, but I'm trying to avoid that, because after all it is her holiday. (I thought that's what kid's were for).
Again, thanks for all your help, it's really making things easier.
Eddo

[osprey]

baptism for William 21/2/1770 in Abergavenny

William son of Reverend Mr William & Elizabeth Powell of Butcher Row, Abergavenny

So another generation in the church!

[Arranroots]

Hello all

There have been a couple of comments about moving this thread.

I deliberately left it, as the title suggested Glamorgan and the developments were indicating Monmouthshire.

I think it might sit best on the Monmouthshire board on the whole...

I'll delete the Breconshire from the title because that is one that doesn't seem to be involved yet!

Kind regards, Arranroots 

[osprey]

had a look for a will for Charles James, but with no success.
His marriage licence is indexed and mentions that Ann is a minor, so under 21.
It's in marriage bonds Llandaff A 129/126 and the index is (WlAbNL) 004420307
(I think)Charles James Powell of Abergavenny, bach to Anne Morgan 2/7/1833 in Llanwenarth.
Think you should be able to get a copy from the NLW
http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=nlwenquiries

[osprey]

I had a look for Ann Olive, sister of your Charles

1861 38 Cadogan Place, Chelsea RG9/37 folio 89 pg 9
Frances Winthorp head widow 59 fundholder b. Surrey
Olive Powell servant 23 companion b. Glamorgan
Emma Fisher servant 33 lady's maid b. Middlesex
Margaret Wilson servant 51 cook b. Cumberland
? Simmonds 24 housemaid b. Surrey

marriage reg
Olive Ann Powell dec qtr 1863 Whitehaven vol 10b pg 837 with John Henry Bright on the same page

1871 2 Belle Vue, Westbury on Trym, Gloucs RG10/2570 folio 9 pg 9
John Henry Bright head mar 33 curate of Westbury on Trym b. Surrey, Wimbledon
Olive Anne wife 32 b. Monmouthshire, Abergavenny
Olive dau 5 b. Hereford
John son 3 b. Glos, Westbury On Trym
+3 servants
 
 

[Eddo]

Morning Osprey,
This was a nice surprise to wake up to. I haven't been able to find much about Anne Olive from this end.
Yesterday I spent about 4 hours just trying to get on to the GRO with the websites listed, and my emails kept bouncing back to me. I was all set to order a couple of certificates, but wanted to ask what it was going to cost me beforehand.
Needless to say, I still don't know, so it looks like I may have to make a phone call, and hope that it's a quickie.
Thus far I think I have enough information to order:

I.G.I. Batch No. C056891
4) Lucy Miranda Powell -Christened 25 Sept 1850 Dowlais, Glamorgan
15) Walter John Powell - Christened 13 Mar 1841, Dowlais, Glamorgan

I.G.I. Batch No. C057191
7) Charles Powell - Birth 13/8/1834 Chris.11/9/1834 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan.
24) Ann Olive Powell - Birth 30/6/1837 Chris. 27/9/1837 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
47) William Bassett Powell - Birth. ? Christened 4/1/1836 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan

I will also probably order a Marriage document for Charles James & Anne Davies, and now Ann Olive's one as well.

I need to have as much information (documentally ?) as possible, so that I can order ahead, and maybe just get my daughter to pick up, or they can post them Air Mail.

I don't want her to waste her holiday chasing paperwork for me.

But she's going into the Merthyr Tydfil area, mainly the Brecons for a bit of "walking", so I'd really like her to visit the town, to find out just where we all came from and take some photos. That seems to be the most important little town to the Powells and their beginnings, and what shaped them for the trek to Australia, and starting all over.

Anyway, thanks again for all your help. I'm really enjoying having a chat.

Sorry, I'm a bit tired this morning, because I stayed up to watch the Tour de France again last night, and as usual fell asleep in my chair just as they crossed the finish line, so I still don't know who officially leads the race. Will find out on the news today I suppose.

Bye for now
Eddo

[osprey]

anything before 1/7/1837 you won't get a certificate for. That's the start of civil registration. Before that date, all you can get is a copy of a parish entry and that needs to be ordered from the record office of the county where the event took place.
So Glamorgan for the Merthyr ones
http://www.glamro.gov.uk/Res%20&%20enq.html#remoteaccess
and for the Monmouthshire ones
http://www.torfaen.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/GwentRecordsOffice/Home.aspx

The cost of a cert is on the site, £7 or equivalent per cert provided you give GRO refs e.g. these registrations
Walter John Powell march qtr 1841 Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 pg 436
Lucy Miranda Powell dec qtr 1839 Merthry Tydfil vol 26 pg 371

death reg
Lucy Miranda Powell june qtr 1840 Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 pg 325

marriage reg
Olive Ann Powell dec qtr 1863 Whitehaven vol 10b pg 837


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/faqs-order-online.asp
They post the certs to you and doesn't take too long,  I believe.

Who is Anne Davies? 

 

[Eddo]

Sorry Osprey,
I was having one of those days.
I had spent what seemed like days on this d... computer trying to find missing ancestors, and by the time I finished I couldn't remember who was whom.
Anne Morgan is who I meant to say. There was a Davies spouse later on, and because I had been working on both, I switched names. Very clever, don't you think. (I only did it to confuse you)
Thanks for the information, I'll now be able to order some certs. and nail a few people down, then I can move on to the next lot.
There seem to have been a hell of a lot of Powells in the Merthyr Tydfils or Glamorgan and Brecon areas. Just trawling through RootsChat, I'm amazed at how many there are.
I'll say this for the Powell's, they seem to have been very fruitfull. My own Grandmother, Amelia May Powell (nee Thearle) had seven children, and for the size of her (she was a little lady) I honestly don't know how she coped.
Again, thanks for the assistance, and I'll keep in touch.
Eddo

[osprey]

just a few Powells in the Breconshire area! 

http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/Surnames.aspx