Myrthyr Tydfil - Powells

[Eddo]

I am searching for information about the family of Charles James Powell (gentleman/brewer) and wife Anne (nee Morgan) who resided in Myrthyr Tydfil or close by in Dowlais, and were included in the 1841 Census.

Their marriage took place 2or3?/7/1833 in Llanwenarth, Monmouthshire. (There Marriage Licence was indexed and mentions that Anne is a minor, so under 21. It's in marriage bonds Llandaff A 129/126 and the index is (WlAbNL) 004420307. (Yes I have this information, however I thought it might help in the identification of the real Anne Powell (nee Morgan).

Their children were:
Charles b.@"Goitra" 13/8/1834 bp. 11/9/1834 at Merthyr Tydfil.

Anne Olive Powell bp. Parish Ch. of St. Tydfils in 30/6/1837          deceased 27/9/1837(GRO Ref:Vol.26 Page 241)

William Bassett Powell bp.4/1/1836 Merthyr Tydfil

Lucy Miranda Powell bp.13/11/1839 (GRO ref. Vol 26 Page 371 Dowlais (died? Jun.Qtr.1840 - GRO Ref. Vol 26 page 325)

Walter John bp. 18/3/1841 GRO ref Vol 26 page 436 Dowlais (but possibly marked as Merthyr Tydfil)

I am also searching for the siblings of Charles James Powell -

William Walter J. Powell baptised 7/7/1801 Abergavenny, Mons.

Irene &/or Olive Mary Powell 1805 bp. 3/1/1805 Abergavenny

Osborne Baker Powell bp. 26/6/1808 Abergavenny, Mons.

Frances Miranda Powell bp. 21/6/1811 Abergavenny, Mons.

Unfortunately there are no birth records as such until Civil Registration in July 1837.

However, Charles James Powell can not be located in Myrthyr Tydfil on the 1851 Census.

Birth of Charles James Powell to parents Rev. William Powell & wife Olive Mary, 3/10/1806, bp. 24?/10/1806 Abergavenny, Mons

Death of Charles James Powell in Neath, GRO Vol 26 page 335 ??
Is it him?

Anne Powell (nee Morgan)  there are so many Anne Powell's who died between 1844 and 1888 (11a/246) I don't know if I can pick the right one.

Would it please be possible for someone to check the original Parish Records of St. Tydfils, Myrthyr Tydfil in the Central Library or wherever you can in the UK.

Hoping someone can assist me in trying to trace these very illusive ancestors.

Thanking you in anticipation,
Eddo

[CaroleW]

Hi

Should this be on the Glamorgan board?  Dowlais and Merthyr T are in Glamorgan not Brecon

[CaroleW]

How old were Charles and Ann on the 1841 census and where were they living as I can't find an entry with the profile above

[CaroleW]

I wonder if this is part of the family in 1851 - particularly as grandma is Olive Mary and daughter Ann b 1836 had Olive as a middle name

Abergavenny Monmouth

William Powell 81  vicar of Abergavenny and Magistrate - b Abergavenny
Olive Mary  73  b London - Lombard House
Irene 46  dtr unmarried b Monmouth Lydart House
William B 14  grandson b Dowlais Glamorgan
Walter John  10  grandson b Dowlais
Mary Perrin Cox 44 visitor governess b Gloucester
Rachel James 24  servant
Hariett Adams 25  servant
HO107 Piece 2446 Folio 366 Page 11   

[CaroleW]

Deaths December qtr 1850   
 
Charles James POWELL  Neath  26 335

[osprey]

likely marriage in Monmouthshire

Charles Jas Powell of Abergavenny, Gent, to Ann Morgan of Llanwenarth 3/7/1833 in Llanwenarth Citra by licence
birth cert should confirm maiden name
Walter John Powell march qtr 1841 Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 pg 436

some Abergavenny baptisms, all children of Reverend Wm Powell and Olive Mary of Monk St
Charles James born 3/10/1806 bp 24(?)/10/1806
Osborne Baker bp 29/6/1808
Frances Miranda bp 21/6/1811

William Basset seems to have followed his grandfather into the church, but looks to have travelled

1901 The Vicarage, Stocklinch, Somerset RG12/2290 folio 112 pg 3
William B Powell head mar 63 clergyman Church of England b. Glam, Merthyr
Sybella F C wife 52 b. Cape of Good Hope 
Isabel F dau 33 b. India

 

[osprey]

Ann Olive living with an aunt in 1851

4 Alpha Rd, Marylebone HO107/1490 folio 659 pg 2
George Morrison head mar 42 West India merchant British subject
Olive A wife 46 b. Monmouthshire
George W son 15 clerk to father b. Middlesex
Olive dau 11 b. Middlesex
Charles F son 7 b. Middlesex
Whiston P son 2 b. Middlesex
Elizabeth aunt 71 annuitant b. Middlesex
Ann O Powell niece 13 b. Glamorganshire
+ 3 servants

found a couple more baptisms in Mitchell Troy, Mon
William Walter J Powell bp 7/7/1801 son of Rev William & Olive
Olive Mary bp 3/1/1805 dau of William & Olive Mary

parish entries are from here
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/monprts.htm

Eddo, as you've been on the site since the original replies & presumably seen them, can you let us know if what we're finding is of use to you?

[Eddo]

I apologise to all those who have been helping me find these ancestors.
I was overwhelmed with what you found, and have been trying to fit everyone in to the right slot on the old family tree.
I have made contact with a distant relation as well, and between what they have found, what you have found, and the little I have been able to find, it has really been "awesome" (that's the only word I can think of at present).
Thanks to the help I have received on line, I am finally getting the family ancestry into line, and it's a bigger family line than I thought it would be.
I didn't realise how many young children were lost in their early days of life, or at times, why families moved so suddenly - the outbreak of disease, etc.
Again thank you all for your assistance - the Powells are finally "making sense" to me.
Eddo

[osprey]

glad to be of help. Too many Ann Powell deaths registered to identify yours.

There's some family info on the online index of the Cambrian newspaper
http://www2.swansea.gov.uk/_info/cambrian/default.asp

death of Rev William in 1863
marriage of Charles in 1833, birth of first son & daughter, a possible different death date for Charles in 1843 if he was a J.P. registered as
Charles Powell dec qtr 1843 Brecknock vol 26 pg 200


I'll check later for the marriage licence and a will for Charles James. I'm waiting for a password to be reset.