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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 28 June 09 14:11 BST (UK) »
Sometimes it feels a bit like some people just want to be the first to 10,000 names in their tree or find a hidden royal rather than find out about the history of the ancestors that lived along the root and branches of our own tree.  In other words it doesn't seem to matter how they get there!

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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 28 June 09 14:11 BST (UK) »
Well, it's only a hobby !

If I was a stamp collector, and I put my favourite penny black in the Hungarian section, that would be nobody else's business or folly, except my own.

You do not own your ancestors.  If someone else wants to marry off your great Aunt Gladys to Tommy Cooper, then you can't stop them.  They can do it "Just like that"  ;D

The only thing I would object to would be if anyone entered the personal details of anyone living from my tree into the public domain.

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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 28 June 09 14:14 BST (UK) »
Yes but you wouldn't advertise in Stamp monthly that you had a penny black when in actual fact it was a Penny Red would you?  ;D

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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 28 June 09 14:22 BST (UK) »
This sort of thing is very frustrating.
 
We don't own our ancestors, but they mean a lot to us & it's annoying when untruths are published about them.

However, it is up to each of us, who cares, to research properly.
I have published incorrect material without realizing it.
My 'tree' is a work in progress. It may be amended from time to time.
I try to check everything & I think that others should do likewise, but not all will. Some do not have the knowledge, inclination or education to research 'correctly'. For some people, finding a tree on the Internet IS research.
That's life, I suppose. We may get upset, but is it really worth it?
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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:04 BST (UK) »
Firstly, I do not have my tree on the net.

While browsing Axxxxxxy family trees I come across quite frequently my gt grandfather is named in trees.

I have the shortest genealogy line in history, can name them on one hand., so why does his name crop up.

I check the trees if it is a public tree and cannot see any connection with him and the rest of the tree.

Please understand I might be wrong and is missing the missing link.

Because my line is short obviously I have spread out sidewards to include my gt gt grandfathers brothers and sisters to make my tree interesting for me.

Secondly, if while browsing these trees and you see an obvious mistake do you contact the owner of that tree to correct them. I dont but I do get irritated by it.

I try to back up and have a paper trail for verification when I can, if not, even my research has a question mark on it.


It is possible - unless you have a rare name  - that the name that crops up is not your  gt grandfather but someone else with the same name. They may even be uncles or cousins of your gt grandfather.

Depending on which part of the 19c they lived depends on how families were named. A lot of families in the early part of the 1800's may well have used their family names for their children. I know a lot of mine did.

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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:13 BST (UK) »
i just dont understand why people latch on to other peoples trees without researching.....
to me its the thrill of finding the link yourself or with the help of others and checking it out because i like to know about their lives where possible, and not just collect names ....
but we are all different and everyone to their own...
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POWELL...treorchy
WALL...bath
STAPLES...weston-super-mare..bleadon...
PEPPIATT...llondon
TULLETT (hannah) born cork ireland... 1891 census living london
WILLIAMS....rhyl wales

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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 June 09 18:26 BST (UK) »
It is not a matter of collecting names, you can get clues by other people's research. It is sill up to you to search out the sources to see if they are in fact your family and the right people in your family.
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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 28 June 09 18:49 BST (UK) »
For once i mostly i agree with Nick :P
i read so many posts about which is best ie FindMyPast, Genes, Ancestry etc, i actually subscribe to all of them,
and no matter how careful you are someone will abuse your generosity, kindness and it doesn't have to be from strangers, i was in contact with a cousin who until contact from genes had never spoken to before, he sent me massive emails asking this and that, yet somehow always avoided answering important questions from me, my Nan when she married put her Dads Brother as father, as she was under the legal age then, and her Dad was dead, so was done to avoid getting all kinds of documents, how ever many times i explained it to him, i found his tree on Ancestry and he had the brother as my Nans father, so obviously threw a whole line wrong, and checking for the same names on there i have found about 4 people have the same info' from him,
i found a personal photo i sent to him of my Nan and his Nan together with wrong tagged info, but what can you do? myself if i see a census form added to a tree i always try and check its correct rather than tag to my tree, if i can't i won't add it ,seems a silly thing to me to add a census from someone elses tree to yours, as the link when people look at someone elses tree then leads to how ever many people have added that census etc (hope that makes sense lol)
My tree on Ancestry is private unless i add people , but doesn't matter how much you trust someone, do you then know what they or the next person does with it, so you have to accept its public property and if you make sure yours is as correct as possible then hopefully you will be contacted by like minded people,

i have many of my cousins on my tree, as the information and links further back is amazing to find they lived in the same streets, before our families were even connected,

as many have said above best not to get to stressed about misinformation from other trees, if you find one genuine one with new information then it makes it worth while,

lol as an example for someone fishing i got this via genes and he had opened his tree, out of interest i clicked on it and he had 5 names himself his father his father etc and nothing else
so wouldn't be surprised if he sent loads like this to different people

"I have just spotted your entry and that for Richard, Mary, & Harriett.
I have a large database of ***** and connected names and if you would like to make contact maybe we can iterate to expand on your tree - no charge !! "

how honoured i was that he wasn't going to charge me ::)




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Re: Family history is thoroughly corrupted
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 28 June 09 19:16 BST (UK) »
.......  ;) A data source box/window should be a compulsory 'tick'.  :P
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