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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #27 on: Friday 10 July 09 08:34 BST (UK) »
Mary Evelyn ASTBURY - according to the 1900 United States Census, her month & year of birth is listed as May 1893.

Are you sure that it's May and not March?

There is a Mary EVELINE ASBURY listed on FREEREG in March quarter 1893, registered in Burton.
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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #28 on: Friday 10 July 09 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dudley
I have just rechecked the 1900 US Census & it definately says May 1893.
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #29 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:00 BST (UK) »
What a pity,

it seemed a good match for place too.

Other comments:
My great-grandparents's aunt (who had lived with the family for many years) got confused on one census about which of their two eldest children was born in England (the rest all in Dublin).  I have the original as well as a copy cert showing that it was my grandfather but in 1901 his older brother was listed as England and himself as Ireland.

I have come across families in my tree where even the parents seem to have got confused between birthdays of their children on the US census (many children, right birthday, wrong child or vv!)

Perhaps, if the child wa not strong, she actually travelled out with a relative, a little later than the parents, after they had time to settle.  Have you checked for her on other voyages?

McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #30 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:01 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary EVELINE ASBURY listed on FREEREG in March quarter 1893, registered in Burton.

She may well be the Mary E ASBURY who in 1901 is enumerated as an 8-yr-old daughter of Ernest & Elizabeth ASBURY in Winshill, Staffs (in Burton RD): RG13/2648/65/29
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Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
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Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #31 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:06 BST (UK) »
Oops typos!

Just noticed, that as you all gathered, I actually meant FREEBMD in this particular case and not FREEREG

sorry

PS Why isn't there a blush smiley?!
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #32 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:09 BST (UK) »
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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #33 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Dudley
Perhaps, if the child wa not strong, she actually travelled out with a relative, a little later than the parents, after they had time to settle. Have you checked for her on other voyages?


I have checked the 1900 US Census & under the column - Year of immigration to the US - it has 1894 for Evelyn, her older brother Willie & her mother Mary. The younger brother was born in the US apparently.
It is still a good idea - so I will recheck the Ellis Island records again in case Evelyn came over a few months later.
Thanks
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Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #34 on: Friday 10 July 09 09:13 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary EVELINE ASBURY listed on FREEREG in March quarter 1893, registered in Burton.

She may well be the Mary E ASBURY who in 1901 is enumerated as an 8-yr-old daughter of Ernest & Elizabeth ASBURY in Winshill, Staffs (in Burton RD): RG13/2648/65/29
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Thanks Anna - saves me having to check that out - I am checking all avenues. My Mary Evelyn was in New York in 1901.
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 21 April 22 20:01 BST (UK) »
I believe that Willy was my great uncle…he was born to Edward Thomas Astbury and Mary Jane Harrison in Syracuse….my grandfather was the brother Edward Thomas (Tom) born in Syracuse …William was not talked about in the family because of his disgrace I’ve never heard of a sister but families are strange perhaps she supported William and was therefore rejected by the family. Mary Jane was a very strict Catholic and a stern mother in law and grandmother. The family moved back to England as Edward senior had potters lung (probably pulmonary fibrosis) he was told to go to the west coast of Lancashire or California…England was cheaper …he loved in a boarding house in Blackpool and Mary Jane and Edward junior lived in Manchester running a stationery shop…..