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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 13:52 BST (UK) »
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The only birth that I have located was for a Mary Evelyn Astbury born June Qtr 1893 in Chester (8a 413). When I ordered this certificate from the GRO they refunded part of my money & stated that "parents were not as listed".


Have you found this lass in the 1901 census to totally eliminate her ? The name is quite unusual to have 2 born the same time ?

Might be worth the £7 piece of mind to get the Cert w/o qualification of parents names (could be a trivial difference thats stopped it being issued)
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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 13:55 BST (UK) »

Looking at the dates you give for her father going to America - I just hope he didn't go early in 1892 ( Mary being born March 1893) otherwise Mrs Astbury migh have had some explaining to do!!!



 :o I was thinking that ages ago when I first started tracking the trips back & forth to the US.  ;D

The 1892 trip - date of arrival was March 24, 1892 to New York. Maybe he got back to England within 3 months !

Does anyone know how long it took to get from England to New York back in the 1890's ??
Cathy
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 13:57 BST (UK) »

Does anyone know how long it took to get from England to New York back in the 1890's ??
Cathy

The Astburys' trip in 1894 took a week (dep Southampton 7 July, arr New York 14 July).

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:00 BST (UK) »
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The only birth that I have located was for a Mary Evelyn Astbury born June Qtr 1893 in Chester (8a 413). When I ordered this certificate from the GRO they refunded part of my money & stated that "parents were not as listed".


Have you found this lass in the 1901 census to totally eliminate her ? The name is quite unusual to have 2 born the same time ?

Might be worth the £7 piece of mind to get the Cert w/o qualification of parents names (could be a trivial difference thats stopped it being issued)

I thinkt hat I might have to do that - reorder the certificate but this time don't list any parents.
I will check the 1901 census in the morning - it's 11pm here in Sydney.

Thanks to all those that have replied - will check back in the morning

Goodnight all 
Cathy
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)


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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:02 BST (UK) »
ah, erm - how do you know her middle name was Evelyn ?


Births Jun 1893
   
 
Astbury  Mary     Chester  8a 413
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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:03 BST (UK) »

Does anyone know how long it took to get from England to New York back in the 1890's ??
Cathy

The Astburys' trip in 1894 took a week (dep Southampton 7 July, arr New York 14 July).

Anna :)

Hi Anna
Where did you find that info  ???
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:05 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary Astbury born abt 1892 father George, mother Ann, living in Delamere Cheshire in the 1901 census.

Looks as if Mrs Astbury was in the clear then if it only took a week to get back ;)

Goodnight - it's only 2 pm here!!

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Anna
Where did you find that info  ???

I compared the outbound passenger list which I have already referred to (available from the pay site www.findmypast.com) with the ship's passenger manifest as presented to the US authorities on arrival, available inter alia on the free site www.ellisisland.org.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Help please with finding a birth - Mary Evelyn ASTBURY 1893
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 14:07 BST (UK) »
ah, erm - how do you know her middle name was Evelyn ?


Births Jun 1893
   
 
Astbury  Mary     Chester  8a 413

I didn't know that with the Chester birth - was clutching at straws & that was the only Mary Astbury I could find that matched the month & year. I thought that maybe they had added the Evelyn later.
Her marriage certificate & death certificate have Mary Evelyn Astbury.
Sedgwick- George, Thomas, Charles, Eddie, Harry
Wilcockson - Thomas, Joseph, Edward, William Henry
Ruge -Christian, Wilhelm, August, Waldemar. Christian was  from Germany(until 1850 then Sth Australia then NSW)