Not Sure Who His Mother Was ?

[milliemoo]

No not sure,
Only I found an Ann Leese in a 1881 census, with a Grandson Richard Leese 1878, thought that might have been ...  the son of Richard 1844 ? or am I trying to make things harder for myself !

Did you mean Richard and not Thomas died in 1870 ?

[Tati]

Yes sorry, I meant Richard  

Death Richard Smith Leese age 58
Dec 1870 6b 126

It would help if we  could find out what became of Fanny. Richard is shown as married in 1861, otherwise I'd have suggested this could be her death:

Fanny Leese, Jun 1857 Lichfield 6b 199
Shame it's too early to show her age at death

There doesn't seem to be another marriage for Richard Smith Leese as far as I can see.

Can you post the 1881 census reference for Ann so we can try to trace her back, see where it leads us?

[milliemoo]

Couldn't manage to post it

She was

Ann Leese  ..  1827  ..  Wolstanton, Stoke

Grandson  ..  Richard  ..  1878   

[Tati]

Tracing Ann back to 1861, when we have your Richard elsewhere, we have:

1861
RG9/1926 113 41
Tunstall, Staffordshire
King St
Richard Leese, head, 35, Potter, b. Shropshire Adderley
Ann, wife, 35, b. Staffordshire Stoke upon Trent
James, son, 12, Potter, b. Scotland Glasgow
Ann M, dau, 8, scholar, b. Tunstall
John, son, 6, scholar, b. do.
Arthur, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Mary, dau, 1, b. do.
Mary Walker, mother in law, wid, 59, Paintress Potter, b. Trent Vale

So it's a different family   

[milliemoo]

Well that's one less to worry about
Thanks

[Jansie]

Hi. James Sheldon Leese was the third son of Richard Smith Leese and Fanny Sheldon. Richard was a  Wharfinger at Rugeley. Richard Smith Leese the oldest son of Richard and Fanny was my mother inlaw's Grandfather.Fanny died 13th April 1857 aged 45.
Richard the elder died 11thDec1870 at Etruria Vale Shelton. James was a greengrocer in Hanley and had five children. Where do you fit into this?

Jansie