Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale

[Lanark55]

Mary Hay's, parents were the Hon. William Hay of Lawfield & Spott and Miss Elizabeth Sinclair of Stevenson. She was one of three sisters. I have a copy of the parish register showing Mary's birth in East Lothian. Also the parents marriage.
William Hay's father was Lord Alexander Hay of Spott , second son of 1st Marquess of Tweeddale of Gifford, East Lothian. His wife was a Buccleuch (Duke) and it is through this line back, Edward III is reached. Going further back you of course arrive at Edward I - the Hammer of the Scots!!!! Not a family member we Scots which to brag about!
The information that William Hay was married before provides a new angel. I always wondered why William married a much younger lady!!!

Yours for now

LWR

[cantcot]

Welcome to Rootschat! Mary Lawson was my wife's ggggrandmother and was related when the son William moved down to farm in Bury, Lancashire. I have Mary's birth as 1806, but this may be 4 years later.

Hello, My Grandfather Thomas Scott 3rd son of William Scott and Agnes Meikle. Went to the Bury, Manchester area in the mid 1880's. I believe to farm and was told to work as an Auctioneer. I have not been able to find any info on the company. I know he lived on at least 2 farms in the area. Can anyone help with information.
Thankyou Elizabeth

[Bathonian]

 Thanks LWR,
Now it's a little easier to move, knowing the connection. In fact some of the history is turning out to be very interesting. I have noticed that Mary Hay never gets a mention anywhere other than in the record of her birth. She was supposedly written off for marrying below her station, but you would have thought that mention of her would have appeared somewhere.

Ken

[Bathonian]

Hi Elizabeth,
William Scott and Agnes moved down to Heapfold Farm, Heap Bridge, Heywood, near Bury, to farm. My wifes ancestor, was James, the next son who became a hay and straw dealer, and he had a son William who became an auctioneer, I suppose dealing in agricultural goods. He was the first connection into the Scottish ancestry, so anything that comes out of my enquiries and answers will apply to you as well, so check them out.
Ken

[cantcot]

Thankyou Ken.  It explains something I have wondered about for a long time, why my Grandfather - Thomas Scott - and his family moved to Bury, Manchester to farm. It now opens up another side of the family I did not know anything about. Would be interested in further information about this family.


Elizabeth.

[Lanark55]

Thanks LWR,
Now it's a little easier to move, knowing the connection. In fact some of the history is turning out to be very interesting. I have noticed that Mary Hay never gets a mention anywhere other than in the record of her birth. She was supposedly written off for marrying below her station, but you would have thought that mention of her would have appeared somewhere.

Ken

[Lanark55]

Mary Hay did leave quite a sum of money in 1839. You should have a look at her will as recorded at National Archives in Edinburgh. You can get a copy through Scotlands People.

LWR

[Ticadeau]

How interesting that the second husband of Elizabeth Turnbull, first wife of William Hay, was a tailor.  It was a tailor who witnessed the marriage of Mary Hay and William Scott at Canongate Kirk in January 1801.  Certainly a stocking weaver, James Turnbull, and a tailor might have had close connections.  Only one witness was at their marriage.  Usually two were required.  I saw Mary Hay's slippers in Glasgow in 1966.  She was a very small person as the peach, satin emboridered slipper were not only beautiful but very small.  I saw a shawl and a brooch which read, The faster ye flee, the faster ye die.

I have been flying over Scotland this evening via Google Earth locating Netherhall Farm of Sandilands.  It appears there may be a large pit of sand on the property. 

[Lanark55]

Not a sand pit but a peat bog. Extraction has taken place there for years.

Regarding almost all the surrounding farms , they have all been farmed by successive generations of William Scott and Mary Hay. At this point none are still farmed.

For successive generations of my family, Mary Hay was always known as Lady Mary. I do not know how as she was not at least the daughter of an earl or a viscount!!

LWR