Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup

[shilo]

Hello Clint and Meg
I will try and answer all your questions it has been awhile since I have been this side of my tree so bare with me

Alexander McInnes parents where Malcolm McInnes and Margaret Buchanan

Rachel McInnes parents Duncan or Malcolm McInnes and Annabella McPherson ( on Rachel's death it has Duncan as father but others believe it is Malcolm )

the story of Maggie jumping of the ship with  typhus has been linked to both Maggie Rachel's niece and the other Margaret you have mentioned who was a acting as a matron on Hercules unfortunately I haven't been able to prove which one it was or was it true for both of them
I have been in touch with Roseanne McInnes and Irene another McIness researcher they to have no idea what happened to Maggie ( Rachel and Alexander daughter ) but one of them suggested getting in touch with a lady in Geelong Australia who may have some answers I haven't been able to find her yet

I have since been told that Maggie was in Queensland ( where the family should have arrived at but instead after such a horrible trip over here landed in Adelaide South Australia )
There is also supposed to be some letters from her living in Queensland to confirm this
Also after Rachel died Alexander married the house keeper and had another 6 children one named Margaret Jane McInnes to complicated things more and add to why he would name another child the same name

Jackie


 

[posterity]

Excellent stuff.. Do you have a list of all Alexander's brothers and sisters as my great great grandfather was one of them, namely Donald McInnes (m) Catherine McInnes (from Drumfearn). They were from Heast with Alexander's father's father (Donald) from Leitir Fura.

Malcolm and Margaret Buchanan's children I had pencilled in as defintely

1) Neil m) Christy McKinnon - lived #10 Heast
2) Meron (m) Peter McKinnon (Christy's brother)
3) Donald (b) 1801

Possible as

4) Christina (b) circa 1810

You have me all excited as it adds another couple of pieces to me hand drawn picture... Anything else appreciated. Regards Clint

[Meg7]

Hi,

Rachel's parents are Niel or Duncan McInnes and Christy.

Her known siblings are Donald, Christy and Martin.  She had a bible with an inscription from Duncan but the croft records show Niel.  I have researched Donald and found heaps on him but I can't locate his death in Scotland's People.  He died between the 1881 census and the 1891 census probably in Glasgow.  Once out of Skye he says he was born in Glasgow. 

Martin was 40 to 44 a wine merchant and living with the family in 1841 - not sure he survived.  Christy the mother of Margaret who jumped overboard was dead and her Donald father was re-married or close to it by 1841.

I really favoured Duncan for a long time but I think he must have been an older brother and he gave her the bible before she left for Australia.

There are too many Niels in the family to discount it and then there are the croft records - no Duncans.

I think there may have been a Margaret who married a John? McDonald but they seem to have only had the one child so I really can't put her in the family.  There is a spare Mary in that area who married so she could be a sister but again no proof.

Sorry wish I knew more.

Meg.

[posterity]

Sorry you have me a little confused... Correct me please.

1) Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan  - had siblings Donald (1801), Neil, Meron - and Alexander (circa 1809) as you mention... (any others that you know of please?)
2) Malcolm McInnes (m) Anabella McPherson - had sibling Rachel (circa 1809) - supposedly from Kylerhea

or was it Neil / Duncan McInnes (m) Christy who were Rachel parents???

Not to confuse things but I have Black John McInnes from Leitir Fura (brother of Donald McInnes who was father of Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan above), supposedly had a daughter Rachel, which would make Malcolm 1) and this Rachel McInnes cousins...Wonder whether that Rachel also had a daughter Rachel who married Alexander... am i tying myself in knots here

A bit confused.... Clint

[shilo]

I will have to look threw my notes but if I remember right there is a Mary who married a McInnes a migrated to Australia she was probably named after  her grandmother Annabella's parents Malcolm McPherson and Mary McDonald

Rachels death certificate states that her Father was Duncan
the story of the bible I was told was it was from her father
Others have named Malcolm or Niel also spelt Neil as her father
there seems to be a lot of confusion with the McInnes and many different stories that seem to be changed to suit which is why I stopped working on this branch until I can give it my full concentration and try and get to the bottom of it all

As for Alexander the only other sibling I can mention but I don't have enough proof is a Rachel who married a Donald McInnes
Yes another McInnes marring a McInnes  
Jackie

[posterity]

MacINNES             DUNCAN          26   BREAKISH,       
                         MARY               28   Mary died 1863, Duncan married Mary Kelly
                                CATHERINE      3   Died on Argyle
                                DONALD           1    Died 3-9-1853

(Duncan's only brothers were Myles, Malcolm, and John) (parents were Donald McInnes (m) Catherine McInnes dies of Cholera) (Donald's parents were Margaret Buchanan (m) Malcolm McInnes - Heaste) (Malcolm's father was Donald from Leitir Fura brother of Black John, Angus. Malcolm, Myles and we think Duncan)... refer below for Duncan and Mary to Australia.


Duncan & Mary arrived Vic on "Argyle"
           MILES              18   Arrived Vic on Hercules
           JOHN               15   Arrived Vic on Hercules
Rents a small croft, and has maintained his brothers, Miles and John, for the past 4 years, and who had employment in the south 6 months ago, but left to emigrate.

P/N  £14-15-8, No 383,

Duncan McInnes (m) Mary ??
Mary 22nd Nov 1863 (37) - parents Malcolm & Annabella McPherson (McInnes) – buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Catharine - Died on Argyle (3)
•   Donald - Died 3rd Sept 1853 (1)

Duncan McInnes (m) Mary Kelly
Duncan (d) 22nd Sept 1909 (81)
buried Meredith Cemetery
Mary (d) 8th Dec 1909 (79) – Peter & Catharine Kelly was father / mother.
all buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Mary Ann (d) 8th Nov 1868 (2)
buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Mary (d) 11th July 1891 (30)
buried Meredith Cemetery
•   Christina (d) 9th May 1894 (26)
buried Meredith Cemetery

1910 - Parish of Cargerie, County Grant, Geelong District

[shilo]

Malcolm McInnes (m) Margaret Buchanan  - had siblings Donald (1801), Neil, Meron - and Alexander 1811


Malcolm McInnes  (m) Anabella McPherson - had sibling Rachel 1810  born Strath Inverness,

confusing is not the word for it with McInnes marrying McInnes      

Jackie

[shilo]

That all looks  right 

[Meg7]

Might look right but it isn't.  Niel (son of Christy McInnes who was sister of Rachel and her husband Donald McInnes) was suposed to be nephew of Malcolm and Annabella.

The Clan McDonald people said that Malcolm must have been brother of Donald )his father) so they tracked his death (he died out of Skye) but he had a different father to Malcolm so they said the nephew bit was wrong.

So if Malcolm was really a brother of Rachel then his death certificate was wrong as I think it said his father was Angus - need to access my computer which I can't for that information. Sorry I can't remember who Donald's parents were but will pass it on when I find it.

There is no way Rachel's death certificate says who her father was as she died in Sth Aus and the certificates do not list parents.  The reason we have her husband's is that he re-married in Victoria.

Yes I tend to think the bible was important but out here and a bit on Skye the eldest brother did sort of look out for his sisters and was often the witness at their wedding so the brother bit could be correct and it was just assumed it was her father.  I certainly hope it wasn't an uncle because that would it impossible to track down.

Either way Christy aged 71 in 1851 lived with her son Donald and Margaret 18 who was the daughter of Christy who was dead on a croft where the records show Niel McInnes paid rent. Donald was the head and Margaret was listed as his niece.

The other son Myles (Margaret's brother) lived with his father Donald and his second wife and Niel lived with his uncle Malcolm.  Guess it is possible Malcolm's death ertificate had his father's name wrong.

It certainly is a puzzle.

Meg.