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Offline LyndaAJ

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First wife's name
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:10 BST (UK) »
I found this information on the LDS website and am hoping that maybe this is the Joseph Lovatt I'm trying to find. It states that Joseph Lovatt married Mary Stubbs in 1853 in Audley, Staffordshire. He was previously married but it doesn't say who his first wife was. Is there any way you might be able to find out what his first wife's name was?

Groom's name-Joseph Lovatt
Age-42
Bride's name-Mary Stubbs
Age-48
Residence-Audley, Staffordshire
Event-Audley, Staffordshire
Date 1853
Groom's father-Thomas Lovatt
Bride's father-William Stubbs
Groom's previous wife's name note-prev married. (This is the information I need if possible)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:19 BST (UK) »
Start by working backwards in the censuses - 1851

All born Audley, Staffordshire
New Town, Audley, Staffordshire
Joseph Lovatt Head Widr 40 Coal Miner
John son 19 " "
Joseph son 11 Scholar
Sarah daur 8 "
Hannah daur 5 "
Elizabeth Boulton Servant U 23 House Keeper
HO107; Piece: 2001; Folio: 547; Page: 31

So his wife has only died during the previous 5 years.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:25 BST (UK) »
1841 transcribed Lavett - New Town, Audley, Staffordshire - all born in County

Joseph Lovett 30 Coal
Ann age indistinct
John 9
Harriett? 6
Thomas 4
Joseph 1
HO107; Piece 986; Book: 12; Civil Parish: Audley; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 35; Page: 22

Sorry, dreadful image to read, but I typed what I saw first of all and then checked against the transcription which seems to agree with the names I've put, with the addition of Ann's age being 30.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:27 BST (UK) »
Joseph Lovatt married Ann Fox 12 April 1831  Saint James, Audley, Stafford
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:35 BST (UK) »
Quote from: MaryA on Sunday 21 June 09 21:25 BST (UK)
Harriett? 6

IGI baptism:

HARRIET LOVAT

Christening:  31 August 1834 St James, Audley, Staffs

Parents:  JOSEPH LOVAT & ANN 

Anna :)

ETA see also IGI extracted baptisms at Audley for John Lovatt, 8 Apr 1832 and Thomas Lovatt, 15 Oct 1837
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Anna, thanks for the double check, seems to confirm it all.

Not bumped into each other for a while, nice to see you.

Mary
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 June 09 21:51 BST (UK) »
Are the children in both familes of the same mother?

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:06 BST (UK) »
LyndaAJ, yes - so far as one can tell without obtaining birth certificates, it looks likely that the children in the 1841 and 1851 censuses are children of Joseph's marriage to Ann.

Her likely death: either

Death Sep qtr 1846 
   
Lovatt  Ann     
Newcastle under Lyme 17 65   

or

Death Dec qtr 1846    

Lovatt  Ann     
Newcastle under Lyme  17 75   


And Mary - good to "bump into" you too :)

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: First wife's name
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:09 BST (UK) »
thank you for all of the information. I'm sure I'll have other questions at another time.
LyndaAJ    :)
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