**Joseph Morrison Kennedy, anyone shed some light plz

[harrovian]

Rarely have i found anything as challenging as trying to articulate my query so apologies now if no one understands it only me & thanks for any input that may follow!

ok got the roots bug recently & found Scotland people site & made some progress on the McKillop side of my tree, most seemed to be registered in Lanarkshire ok so happy days on that front but when i got my Great grandfathers details on the Kennedy side the trail stops past knowing his mother & fathers names that were listed on his marriage cert. I haven't been able to trace a birth cert for him or a death cert (there was a war record that possibly could have been him but he had a son in 1919 but death yr shows 1918 that said his wife could have been with child before he left for France ww1?? & given birth in 1919?) i literally trawled through 3 pages of  Joseph kennedy knowing he was born 1885 i eliminated down to 4. three were defo not him as 2 were single & 1 was a priest which only left service record. His parents are listed as John Alexander & Elizabeth Kennedy (mn Maxwell) neither can i find any certs for them. If it were anyone else i might have suggested that his parents maybe hailed from Ireland but My nan was a staunch Scottish Protestant who ostracized my father because he married my mum an Irish catholic so i doubt this very much as it would have been known?
One other thing i noticed  was that the children on my McKillop side seem to have taken their mothers maiden name which is listed before their surname. What was the rule of the thumb for this as there seemed to be one exception A Mary Marshall McKillop seemed to have her paternal grandmothers maiden name.  My ggf name was Joseph Morrison Kennedy yet his mothers maiden name was Elizabeth Maxwell. he was married to Mary Marshall McKillop on the 4/9/09 in Dalziel

Can anyone suggest where i need to go from here? as i've hit a brick wall. cheers
 

[Isabel H]

The IGI shows only one child of John Alexander Kennedy and Elizabeth Maxwell - Mary Annie Kennedy, b. 1888  Newtowncrommelan, Antrim, Ireland. This is a recently submitted record so is probably worth following up.

[harrovian]

Thanks Isabel for your response. But what is IGI??? do you think Elizabeth was married previously maybe to a Morrison? still not quite sure how or where to follow this up.

[sancti]

Have you checked this marriage record on SP

1920 KENNEDY JOSEPH MORRISON AND LOCKHART ELIZABETH HART at  LARKHALL /LANARK

[Isabel H]

The International Genealogical Index is on the Familysearch website or on microfiche in libraries, and was created by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) who collect such information as part of their religious observances. It is just what it says, an index, but is useful for finding where to look. You can find it here:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Some of the records have been filmed or transcribed from actual church registers, others have been submitted by LDS members researching their ancestors. It is wise to check the information for yourself.
As for the middle names, they are often, but by no means always, family names. They may be the mother's or grandmother's maiden name, but they could also be that of a family friend/minister/midwife etc. Sometimes too illegitimate children were given the father's name as a middle name.

[AndrewKen]

John Alexander Kennedy and Lizzie were originally from co Antrim and moved to Larkhall in the early 1900's they had a a lot of children - I have a list if interested. Joseph Morrison was their son. There was also another Joseph Morrison born to Andrew Kyle Kennedy - John's brother. John and Andrews father was James Kennedy and Mary Kyle. This thread is so out of date I don't expect a response.

Regards

Andrew Kennedy

[canuckmom]

I just found this thread... we're trying to find out more about the Kennedy side of our family tree, but keep hitting brick walls, or thousands of pages on the internet! I saw this thread with the names of James Kennedy and Mary Kyle. These people would be my 3rd great grandfather & grandmother. The relation to me is:

James Kennedy & Mary Kyle
  > their son John Alexander Kennedy married Elizabeth Maxwell
       > their daughter Elizabeth Jane Kennedy married David Kelly
            > their son David Kelly married Phyllis Unger
                 > their son David Kelly is my Dad

We've also been trying to find more information on David Kelly's parents of Robert Kelly & Mary Jane Swann.

Any relation??

Thanks,
Laura

[AndrewKen]

James and Mary had daughters Matilda and Mary Jane. Sons were James, Andrew Kyle and John Alexander. John Alexander married elizabeth maxwell, they had the following children
Elizabeth Jane (your relative)
James
Madge (married a Turkington in New Zealand)
Joeseph Morrison (Detroit)
John Maxwell (b and d in 1886)
Mary Anne (Married an Anderson, Larkhall)
John Maxwell (b 1889 d in New Zealand in a mining accident)
Matilda
Hugh Bradshaw (d in New Zealand)
Crawford Alexander Dunseth (my grandfather)
William Andrew (d 1914 in Newton Crommelin - the family home)
Gordon
Frederick Walter
Hellen Louise  (d 1904 age 2)
They all lived in Newton Cromellin N. Ireland until either married and left or moved with their parents to Scotland. I went to Newton Cromellin to visit the graveyard and 2 of the family are burried there.

I'll try and pull together some of the other things I have if you are interested. I would also like to get information on the family from Elizabeth and David Kelly - I have their children but no dates or further family members

Regards

Andrew Kennedy

[elderone1]

I'm having difficulty withn this site. Timing out (I'm slow). File too large...
I'm David Kelly, as was my father and grandfather...surely the David Kelly in your post. Elizabeth Jane was my grandmother.
Are you an historian or a relative Kennedy?
"Canuckmom" is one of my daughters. See her Profile to acces our website.
Photo is John Alexander Kennedy, Elizabeth Maxwell, Grandpa David Kelly and Grandma Elizabeth Jane, the seeven brothers and a sister. My Dad is at the far right.
If you are a son of Fred Walter Kennedy, we may have met.