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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 28 July 09 12:28 BST (UK) »

Hi,

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The Chorlton Union Workhouse records are definitely at Manchester Central Library.  A friend kindly did a look-up in the death register and found baby Patrick Grant entered for 1857 (along with his twin brother Charles which was new information for me).  There is a grave reference but this will obviously refer to the graveyard at the workhouse which as we know no longer exists.  When I knew she was going I warned her that the records might be too fragile to photocopy (re Aulus' post) but that it might be possible to take a photograph however she told me cameras are not allowed to be used in the library and the staff were strict about enforcing this regulation when she was there.  Not to worry though, it was possible to get a photocopy in this instance.  I did think about posting an extract on here so you could see how the records are but am not sure re copyright etc.,

Luzzu

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 28 July 09 14:15 BST (UK) »

Hi,

 :)

The Chorlton Union Workhouse records are definitely at Manchester Central Library.  I did think about posting an extract on here so you could see how the records are but am not sure re copyright etc.,

Luzzu

If you do as every one ells dose and do what is called "Transcribe" any records in your own words, this does not brake/infringe any copy rights or if it does every one on this site is in breach of copy rights including moderators of this site.Just by changing the font size & type can change copy right ;D ;D
I think thats how they get round the 1911 census , they are so poorly transcribed you will be lucky if you can say where they got the original infomation from( they have to be the worst i have ever seen, i had to use an Enigma machine to work half of what they tried to transcribe)
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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 28 July 09 17:42 BST (UK) »

Hi,

 :)

The Chorlton Union Workhouse records are definitely at Manchester Central Library.  A friend kindly did a look-up in the death register and found baby Patrick Grant entered for 1857 (along with his twin brother Charles which was new information for me).  There is a grave reference but this will obviously refer to the graveyard at the workhouse which as we know no longer exists.  When I knew she was going I warned her that the records might be too fragile to photocopy (re Aulus' post) but that it might be possible to take a photograph however she told me cameras are not allowed to be used in the library and the staff were strict about enforcing this regulation when she was there.  Not to worry though, it was possible to get a photocopy in this instance.  I did think about posting an extract on here so you could see how the records are but am not sure re copyright etc.,

Luzzu


hiya luzzu.
you can use a camera in the library,when i asked two of the librarians at manchester library,they told me that i can photograph as much as i wanted,in four hours,but theres a charge of £4

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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 28 July 09 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Sorry.   ::)

Didn't mean to mislead people by posting the wrong information re taking photographs at the library.  Must have misunderstood or got confused.

Luzzu
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire


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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 12:31 BST (UK) »
Just a quick addendum on taking photographs in records offices.

I've not been to Manchester (yet), but Lancashire, Suffolk and Barrow-in-Furness have all allowed photography (at a per day cost, so it's worth saving up your photography!).  But you are not allowed to use flash and at Lancashire Records Office, they have been particular about the little red (focussing??) light that some digital cameras shine out just before you take a picture.

You have to keep a record of what you have photographed and as part of the agreement you sign, you agree not to use the images commercially (without further permission, I presume).

So if you are going to use a digital camera in a records office, I'd suggest you practice at home and make sure it's not emitting any lights at all!  And of course you can practice making sure you can hold it still and that you've got the hang of its macro focus functions.
Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 13:16 BST (UK) »
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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi all, :)

I went to Manchester library to view these records and got a couple of photocopies.  Photo copying machine is terrible at the library, It cost me loads, and what I got wasn't very good.  At 50p a time :o, they need a better machine as the picture you see in front of you isn't always what you get!! You can alter the contrast but you don't see this on screen, just wait for the copy to be printed.  :(

You cannot use a camera where the micro machine readers are, as I was told 'NO' from a few people there, you can use it to take a picture from the photocopying machine but that doesn't work either with or without flash, due to the screen where you see the picture.  The microfilm can be great and dead clear on the screen of the photocopier, but doesn't mean it's what you get!!! :(

They were very helpful at the library, allowing me to try with a camera as they have seen previous people do the same and it hasn't worked for them.  They did watch as I done this, and I had to show them  photo's.  If you are able to get a picture/s it costs £3.00.  And you do have to sign a copyright agreement. :-X

Staff there are clearly not happy with the photocopying machine as I was not the only person who wasn't happy with the photocopy.  They must get tired of people going back to them.  The microfilm readers weren't any better, I had to rewind film back onto reel using my finger.  At one point it fell off the machine and hit me on the head!!!!

I gave up in the end and just copied info onto paper. ;D

The microfilm for the workhouse was quite clear, although as with all documents of an age you get some that are not great.

Come on Manchester City Council GIVE the library some decent funding!!! to update, the facilities for the public and the staff!!! It would be money well worth spent as the place was really BUSY!!

Sorry Luzzu, about giving wrong impression about the use of a camera!! Glad you were happy with the photo copies. :-[

Cancan :)

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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #25 on: Friday 16 December 11 02:32 GMT (UK) »
hi, i've done quite alot of research into this matter, my grandpob, his siter and brother were born in withington workhouse. his brother eric and mother clara both died of tb in the workhouse in 1927, clara was buried in the family grave in widnes, however we think poor little baby eric was buried in the chorlton union cemetary at the workhouse. the cemetery also served the chorlton union area as well as the workhouse until 1920.

Please see this link for more information:
http://www.manchester-family-history-research.co.uk/new_page_5.htm

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Re: Cemetery at Withington Workhouse & Hospital, Nell Lane
« Reply #26 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thanks for your interesting posting.  Just wanted to put a link to Cancan's posting on the Resources board.  She has photographed the site of the Chorlton Union Workhouse reburials at Southern.  There is a photograph of the engraved flat memorial stone on the site of the CofE reburials.  Very sadly they didn't place a memorial stone on the site of the RC reburials.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,555375.0.html

Luzzu  :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire