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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:13 BST (UK) »
Just to add that Mohamed Din Peterson had black hair and dark brown eyes, but his skin colour was quite light. My partner remembers him as a quite tall, very thin man.

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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:18 BST (UK) »
Photo's of two of Prof. Peter PETERSON's younger brothers ( grandchildren all 3 of the Revd. Peter PETERSON).
[Prof Peter seems to have had had 7 brothers and 4  sisters, plus another sister and possibly another brother who died young]

Photo of Sir William PETERSON (1856 Sct - 1921 Eng), Educationalist, McGill University Canada
http://wapedia.mobi/en/William_Peterson_(academic)

Photo (not a good quality) of Magnus PETERSON )1854 sct -1894 nz), Organist and Choirmaster
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06lj/

twageos,
Can't believe I hadn't come across your site when I was hunting them out  ;D my google finger was be slipping! Love the photo of Revd Peter - a clear smile or supressed grin, not quite in keeping with the photographic conventions of the day!
Magnus  may not have been a professor, but his (their) other brother was - Franklin Seivright PETERSON:1861 Sct -1914 Aus]
http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A110215b.htm


Cheers  ;D
AMBLY



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The marriage certificate arrived
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 08:32 BST (UK) »
The marriage certificate arrived. It hasn't negated the theory that he came from the famous, academic Peterson family of Scottish/Norweigan descent, but it has made it less likely.

On 4 December 1922 Mohamddin (otherwise John, and signed as John in very good handwriting) Peterson married Margaret McLachlan at St Margaret's, Anfield, Liverpool. He was 28 and was thus born about 1894 (a later ship's record suggested that he was born about 1891). He was a labourer and living at 96 Colt Street. I haven't checked the exact location yet, but I imagine this is also in the Anfield area. Mohameddin's father was also a labourer and was called GULAM MOHAMED. I can only guess where the Peterson name came from, but the family story is that Mohamddin married a Danish or Scandanavian lady and assumed her surname. I suppose Gulam could have done this a generation earlier.

I don't know whether Gulam was also in Liverpool, but he was still alive in 1922.

I need to check census records online and also the Electoral Registers in Liverpool. My partner is from Liverpool, but we both live in Shropshire now, so if there is some kind soul...

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Celt Street
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 09:20 BST (UK) »
It was 96 Celt Street, not Colt Street. Celt Street is in the Fairfield area of Liverpool not far from Everton. Many of the houses in that area were removed in the slum clearances of the 60s and 70s. In 1901 the houses in Celt Street only went up to 51.



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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 10:09 BST (UK) »
I've been searching the censuses and haven't come up with anything except on the 1911 census:

TRAINING SHIP INDEFATIGABLE
RIVER MERSEY, ROCK FERRY, County Cheshire
(District Birkenhead, Subdistrict Tranmere)

JOHN PETERSON, 15, SEA APPRENTICE, b.LIVERPOOL, LANCS

I don't have access to ancestry.com to check for the death of Gulam Mohamed after 1922, but the online Lancashire death records don't show him.

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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 14:26 BST (UK) »
It all gets more interesting.  ;D

Unusual name Gulam Mohamed. I found this on Freebmd:
Marriages Jun 1923
Matilda Andrews = Gulam Mahomed
Liverpool 8b 172

I wonder who this is?

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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 14:41 BST (UK) »
Good spot Ruskie.

Gulam means slave or servant so presumably Gulam Mohamed means 'servant of Mohamed'.

I thought Mohamddin Peterson must come from a Muslim family because it's also written Mohamed Din Peterson.  Din (or Deen) is an Arabic word usually translated as "religion" but also as "way of life", especially referring to Islam, known as ad-din "the deen", or din al-haqq "the true deen". It is, however, not exclusive to Islam, as Arab Christians also use it to refer to their religion and religion in general.

I did find an Irish O'Connor family living at 96 Celt Street in 1911. So Mohammdin and Margaret moved in some time betrween 1911 and 1922.

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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 15:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the explanation - quite complicated isn't it.  ;) On freebmd there are a couple of births and deaths for Gulam Mohameds as well.

Have you found Mohammddin or Margaret in 1901?

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Re: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 15:31 BST (UK) »
I found Margaret McLachlan in 1901 at 3 Hook St, Liverpool:

- Samuel Mclachlan, head, 38, Marine Stoker, b.Liverpool
- Mary Mclachlan, wife, 32, b.Glasgow
- Sarah A Mclachlan, dau, 13, b.Liverpool
- Andrew Mclachlan, son, 12, b.Liverpool
- John Mclachlan, son, 8, b.Liverpool
- Agnes Mclachlan, dau, 4, b.Liverpool
- Margaret Mclachlan, dau, 0, b.Liverpool

But I haven't found Mohamddin Peterson. I searched for Mohamddin and variants and John. There were several (five) John possibilities, but none correct. I think I found Mohamddin (John) in 1911 as a 15-year old trainee sailor (see previous).