Adoptee's birth certificate?

[maxxangel]

I have been looking through the information on adopted children and it has raised a question for me. My great grandmother was said to have had a son while her husband was away fighting in WW2. Because he was illigitimate he was given up for adoption. Now, I have found a son registered in her married name with her maiden name as the mother. Is this likely to be him? Because they say that once the adoption is registered, the adoption certificate replaces the birth certificate.

Cara

[Luckyjo]

Not sure about the time span you are referring to. But I adopted a child in 1966 and had to surrender the original birth certificate which I had in my possesion, and was given a new one which incidentally makes no reference to adoption.
Regarding your great grandmothers child it is possible it's her son particularly as it was war time. Also it would be possible to obtain the original birth certificate as long as you have the year of birth and where born.
Regards Joy

[rosebud2]

Hi
My widowed mother remarried in 1953 then both her (because she had a different surname to us now)and our stepfather adopted my brother and I in 1955. I have the certificate from the adoption, then in 1990 I applied for and got my original birth certificate, on the righthand side they have written Adopted and the Supt Registrar name. Hope this helps.

rosebud2

[Just Kia]

My grandfather was adopted. I ordered his birth cert using the GRO ref for his actual birth name and I recieved a copy of the original birth cert with was annotated with "adopted" (but no reference to when, or the adopted parents) after the last column.
I also have his adoption cert, which has no reference to his birth name or parents.

[PaulineJ]

If the child were not adopted (or died) then the original birth registration would not be changed.
The rarer the surnames (or combination of surnames) then it makes the registration more/less likely to be the relevant one.

Pauline

[suzard]

Whether the child was adopted or not the original birth registration is not removed.

Once a birth is registered that registration remains.

When a child is adopted the adoption certificate (which does not name the birth parents) replaces the birth certificate and the adoption is entered in an adopted persons register (which is not open to general public). The original birth registration stays on the birth register(often has some kind of mark or numbers added after the registration which indicates a "search" has been done on the person (for adoption purposes)

If a child was born illegitimately and the father's name was not on the original registration and the parents marry or get together later, then the father's name can be added to the birth certificate - but this means the birth has to be reregistered (even if it is 5- 10 years later)

Basically once a birth is registered the original registration remains - as does an adoption registration

If a child is adopted the the CERTIFICATE of the registration of adoption is used in place of the CERTIFICATE of the original registration of birth

Suz

[acceber]

If you have found the entry in the Birth registers then it is possible to buy the orginial birth certificate.

A family rumour was that a relative gave up baby for adoption after the war, I looked through the birth registers on Ancestry and found an entry which looked likely. On a hunch, I ordered it and it turned out to be the correct one! (A fairly unusual surname and the place of birth aided my search)

As already stated, in the last column is written the word 'Adopted' on the birth certificate.

So yes, providing you have the entry from the birth registers, it is possible to buy the certificate, but there is no link between the birth cert and the adoption cert. Only the adoptee can find that out. So unless you are the adoptee you can find one certificate but not the other!

acceber

[Just Kia]

So unless you are the adoptee you can find one certificate but not the other!
acceber

Not quite. I have both certs for my grandfather.
You need the date/name/gro ref of the original registration to get the original birth cert.
If you know the birth date (or at least qtr)/adopted name/adoption date (roughly) you can get the adoption cert.

[acceber]

Yes, but I would have thought it quite unlikely that people looking for an adopted person would know both.

The point is, there is no connection between the two certificates, to find that out (unless in your case of knowing the two separate names) it is only the adoptee, who through the appropriate channels, can access their file.

acceber