Lookup - Ellen Rampkin of Stanway

[Benzol]

Could somebody help to trace Ellen Rampkin, please.

I found Ellen married to a relative of mine (John Churchill). They lived Fairsted Essex 1881 Census RG11 1809/152 Page 13. Their marriage took place in Lexdon RD (4a 643) between Oct and Dec 1878. Ellen claims to have been born in Stanway about 1854.

My problem is that Ellen does not appear in the Births Register. I have searched under Ramkin; Rankin and Rampkin - no joy! Anybody any ideas. The 1891/1901 censuses may help but I don't have easy access. If the couple are still living in Essex later on any further details would be good.

Thanks

Benzol

[Ecneps]

Hi Benzol

1891 and 1901 census both state born 1854 Stanway - details later
1871 census her surname is RAMPLEN and she's living with her uncle Frederick Ramplen and family
1861 she's with grandfather Thomas RAMPLIN, his unmarried daughter Sophia (possibly her mother?), and his other 2 granddaughters Frances and Alice

I can give full details of these earlier census if you don't have access

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Have you discounted these possible birth registrations?:

June  Quarter  1853  Cosford    4a   4*9    Ellen RAMPLING       
March Quarter 1854 Woodbridge 4a 533  Ellen RAMPLIN

not too far away from Stanway, perhaps she was registered in Woodbridge or Cosford district but brought up in Stanway? 

Her marriage cert may show father's name and occupation, then you could check with the local register office to see if his details were on this birth cert

Barbara 

[Ecneps]

1891 census RG12 Piece 1419 Folio 44 Page 11
Holt Street, Earls Colne, Essex
CHURCHILL
John     head m 40 Groom   Crewkerne, Somerset
Ellen         wife  m 37              Stanway Essex
Charles S  son       8  Scholar
Hector J      "          3
Elsie L       dau      1
children b. Earls Colne


1901 census RG13 Piece 1720 Folio 34  Page 16
CHURCHILL
Ellen     head wid 47 Living on own means   Stanway Essex
Hector  13
Elsie  11
Frank 8
Olive  4
all but Ellen born Earls Colne
   

Barbara

[Benzol]

Hello Barbara,

Rootschatters are great OK!

Thanks for all your time and effort. Lots of detail. Doesn't get much better than this. I didn't know John Churchill had died young. Thanks for finding the baptisms. They're what I was really after. Didn't think of Ramplin and so on and no I hadn't rejected them. If you could say what town/village Ellen lived in 1861/71 might help with RD. Incidentally can't find Cosford, do you happen to know where it is?

Once again many thanks.

Cheers Benzol

[Ecneps]

Hi Benzol

Cosford registration district is Suffolk but covers an area not too far from Stanway - details of the district here:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/cosford.html
If you use freebmd to find bmds, and click on the registration district highlighted in blue, it will show what towns/villages were covered by that district

John Churchill death registration:
Jun 1899  Halstead    4a   365   Churchill    John  aged 49   

Will give you the earlier census shortly

Barbara 

[Benzol]

Thanks Barbara,

Didn't know the secret of RDs. Thanks for the death of John. I also found the births/deaths of two other children in Halstead. One, Harold John must have been the twin of Hector James who survived. I'm trying to find marriages of the children now.

Benzol

[Ecneps]

Hi Benzol,

1871  RG10  Piece  1751  Folio 75  Page  15 census
23 Coytes Gardens, Ipswich St. Nicholas, Suffolk
RAMPLEN
Frederick  head mar 27 Porter at Hotel   Essex Stanway
Sarah       wife   mar 26             Woodbridge Suffolk
Francis T   son            2             Ipswich Suffolk
Arthur         "       6 months            "         "
Ellen        niece  unm 17 School Teacher  Essex Stanway



1861 census  RG9 Piece  1103 Folio 104  Page  8
Stanway Street, Stanway, Essex

RAMPLIN
Thomas head wid 62 Parish Clerk & Shoemaker  Essex Mark Ley
Sophia   dau  unm 23     "       "    Daughter
Ellen   grand dau    7 Scholar
Frances   "      "      6    "
Alice        "       "     1  Grand Dau

Sophia & Children born Stanway


Barbara

[Ecneps]

1851 census  HO107  Piece 1782  Folio 457  Page 10
 29 Street, Stanway, Essex

Susannah RASHBROOK head wid 74  Retired    Essex Dedsham
Sophia RAMPLIN           visitor    14 Shoemaker's Daughter   Stanway


1851 census   HO107  Piece  1782 Folio 456  Page  9
24 Street, Stanway, Essex

RAMPLIN
Thomas   head mar 52 Shoe Maker   Mark Tey, Essex
Elizabeth wife  mar 51
Thomas    son  unm 27 Journeyman Carpenter
James         "      "    24 Groom
Caroline   dau     "   20 Seamstress
Joseph     son     "   17 Shoe Maker
Naomi      dau     "   10 Scholar
Fredrick    son     "    7      "

all but Thomas senior born Stanway


Barbara