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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:04 BST (UK) »
There is a relative here on curiousfox

see this descendant of Agnes Strange daughter of Reuben and Eunice

http://www.curiousfox.com/history_Wales/glamorgan_11.html
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:05 BST (UK) »
Could James /Reuben be the same person
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:05 BST (UK) »
These are the Wotton under Edge/Dursley Stranges.  

James Strange and Elizabeth Wheeler had the fllowing children baptised at Dursley:

James Strange  SEP 1851
 
Mary Ann Strange  MAR 1853  

Reuben Strange  MAR 1856 (alias James Davies ? )
 
Elizabeth Strange  DEC 1858

Edmund Strange DEC 1860
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:42 BST (UK) »
   
'On 27 Aug 1882 Eunice Ann PERRETT marries James STRANGE (widower, labourer, resident of Newhaven; father Edward STRANGE, deceased).  Marriage in The Parish Church, Newhaven, Sussex. Witnesses Harriet PERRETT and John PERRETT, labourer  who is also given as bride’s father'.
 
Hang on James Strange father Edward, yet the Strange baptisms found by Shaun are father James?
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 16:48 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 census there is only 1 James Strange living in Newhaven

RG11/1073/74/66

He is a messenger, boarder with an Evans family and aged 52 born Liverpool.

Something doesn't tie up here.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 17:11 BST (UK) »
Goodness, you have been busy!  I go to the supermarket and come back to all this.

The Oxford Reuben is on the various censuses, but I do think he is a red herring, AMBLY.  I am not sure about the Albert E in the Army, either, but thanks for looking!

I am amazed at the Davies business!!  Well done for finding them.

In the 1911 they are living (ubder the names in my first post) at 15 Treherne Road.

So, need to get those Reuben Strange Death Certs.

My mother knows nothing, my Aunt (old and ill) was close to her mother and said "Penny shouldn't bother, there were some very naughty girls....."

Do you think Eunice was carrying on with father and son, or two brothers? Hence changed their name when went to Cardiff.  Or father and son? Was James Strange's father's name Edward?

They were a confusing lot, and the Gloucestershire Stranges and Perretts were a rum lot, right at the bottom of the heap. Someone was lying; if you brilliant people have any other suggestions about how to unravel this, please fire away.

Cooking supper - beef and potato curry since you ask - will return later.

Many thanks to all.

BENNET(T); NRY- Brotton, CON
BURTON; NRY- Saltburn, Guisborough, Marske, Stokesley
Judge Newark Lincoln BURTON , USA
DALES; NRY- Brotton, LIN - Orby
DAVIES
GEORGE: GLA - Oystermouth & Penarth, CON
LINCOLN. Middlesbrough, NRY, Durham
PERRETT Gloucestershire
QUESTED London. Assisting with One-name Study.
TRASK; GLA - Cardiff, Barry etc, SOM - South Petherton
WESTED

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 17:14 BST (UK) »
She seems to end up back in Gloucestershire with the Stranges, so I do wonder who the Newhaven James was. I cannot find any Newhaven Parish records online (the Parish Church was St Michaels although there is another "new" church); anyone got any access to these?
BENNET(T); NRY- Brotton, CON
BURTON; NRY- Saltburn, Guisborough, Marske, Stokesley
Judge Newark Lincoln BURTON , USA
DALES; NRY- Brotton, LIN - Orby
DAVIES
GEORGE: GLA - Oystermouth & Penarth, CON
LINCOLN. Middlesbrough, NRY, Durham
PERRETT Gloucestershire
QUESTED London. Assisting with One-name Study.
TRASK; GLA - Cardiff, Barry etc, SOM - South Petherton
WESTED

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 17:55 BST (UK) »
If you put James Strange born Liverpool into the cencuses then that 1881 entry is the only one that comes up. The other boarders have Liverpool as a place of birth as well so I think you have to disregard that.
My gut feeling, but it needs some more work, is that it was James Strange snr. she married.
 His baptism isn't online, there is a submitted marriage to Elizabeth on Familysearch and my guess is they haven't found his baptism.
James snr. needs to be traced and also what happened to his wife Elizabeth?
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 18:38 BST (UK) »
This might be Elizabeth's death reg

Elizabeth Strange dec qtr 1862 Dursley vol 6a pg 144

The family for which ShaunJ found baptisms is in Wotton under Edge in 1861 RG9/1750 folio 91 pg 14.
1871 Elizabeth & Edward (Edmund?) are in Dursley workhouse RG10/2594 folio 36 pg 38

Haven't found the others as yet, but Reuben is in Swindon in 1881 RG11/2020 folio 53 pg 29

birth reg for son Reuben
Reuben Strainge june qtr 1890 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 545
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb