Burials Barrhead prior 1930

[weeboab]

Thanks Murphyz for that great information!

My gt.grandmother died at Russells land craigheads Barrhead april 5th 1892 i think gt.Grandfather died at the same address.He was a limestone worker.I know through the family that they stayed at thi address.So back to the records for me.

[Murphyz]

Hiya

Sorry if I am not following this well - but the McDermott stone which is in Neilston - is that the one you are looking for?

From Scotlands People - John McDermott, limework labourer, widower of Jane Dundas died 5th Jan 1896 at 55 Craighead Street Barrhead, but his parents are listed as Bernard McDermott and Annie McKee. Death notified by son Bernard McDermott. I haven't accessed the Jane Dundas McDermott death on SP but the dates you mention are the same as on the Neilston stone.

Regards
Murphyz

[weeboab]

The grave in Neilston is the grave of my Gt.Grandparents,thank you for finding it for me.I was there on Thursday,thank's for showing the photograph,I would never have found it without having an idea what it looked like,and the position of the wall,and the tree.I tried to take a photo.but the batteries in the camera had run out.No matter I will go back.The grave in Barrhead,I started to research it years ago,and of course the dates I had did not correspond with the dates ,and names I had.Now I have the true resting place of my family.Thank you again for posting on the forum.My wife and I go to Ireland every year,we go to Fermanagh,the local historian showed us the cottage my Gt.grandfather was born in 1829,but the records there are none existant.I will keep up with the forum.I have an e-mail to send regarding this topic,I will get in touch.                  weeboab

[Murphyz]

Weeboab
I have quite a few photos of the grave which you can have, I will drop you a pm with my email address.

Cheers
Murphyz

[DuncanM]

Hi Murphyz,

This is from memory only so forgive me if I add to the confusion. I'm not sure when the present Columba Club was built but I seem to remember this happening when I was at St John's School next door. This would have been early to mid 1970s. Before this I think the original Chapel building would have been left as a ruin. I'd be surprised if St Conval's doesn't have a record of the reinterments. As I say, this is only from memory so forgive me if this is not correct. I was always led to believe my grandfathers brother was buried in the old chapel ground circa 1918 but doubt if there would have been a marker.

Re the stones which were in the old st john's churchyard - I have been to Barrhead library and they believe any graves which would have been disturbed by the building of the Columba Club were re-interrred, as it was sacred ground. Old photos of the original church show graves in what would now be the car park.

The library thinks the graves affected were re-interred to St Convals,Barrhead. If some one knows this isn't right, let me know and I will try and go through old copies of the Barrhead News to see if it was mentioned when the church burnt down.

[Murphyz]

I have rummaged through the micro fiche of the Barrhead News; I could only see two stories about the building/opening of the Columba Club.
BHN 11/08/1972 - Says the Columba Club's new £35,000 building is open to members but won't be officially opened until September 1972. No mention of the graves being moved, but it does say the ground was allowed to be used for the building by the Catholic Church "on condition the Knights of St Columba be responsible for the picturesque cemetery."
BHN 22/09/1972 - Official opening to be held Friday 22nd Sept 1972 with a Dinner Dance at the Columba Club and Bishop Stephen McGill of Paisley and Provost McGuire to be in attendance.

I have also checked the Barrhead News for 1926 and 1928 for the McDermott deaths as per the Neilston cemetery stone but unfortunately no death notices.

Regards
Z

[Murphyz]

McDERMOTT

So far I have only managed to see one other McDermott headstone in Neilston cemetery. I will not put all the details on as it has fairly current dates but it includes the names Alexander McDermott, died aged 50 in 1976, husband of Margaret; Mary Martin and a child of the either Alexander or Mary Martin.

I have somehow managed to loose all my emails so not sure if this is any connection to the older stone in Neilston, and it is too current to check on SP.

Kind Regards
Z

[Murphyz]

McDERMOTT - Barrhead News 1962/1967/1968

I have gone through the Barrhead News BDMs for the years 1962, 1967 and 68 and I have not found a single entry for a McDermott or a Helena Mitchell.

I have just had a look on Scotlands People and there is a death of a Helena Mitchell in 1966 in Paisley/other name listed as Murphy, aged 48 years. Gros Data 573/01 007. It is going to be a few years before it is available to see on line. I will try and check 1966 of the BHD News, but it is unlikely to have an entry if she then lived in Paisley.

On a separate but related note, I think I may have found some of the reasons why I can't find certain gravestones in Neilston.

BHD News 6 March 1968 - "On Thursday night an unknown number of youths climbed the walls of Neilston cemetery and systemically tore down 113 gravestones, wrecking some beyond repair."
There is also a mention of the fact this damage was done six weeks after a gale had blown down some stones.
BHD News 28 June 1968 - Neilston cemetery - thirteen headstones overturned and the damage believed to be the work of one youth.

Regards
Murphyz

[Ann Baker]

Muprhyz

I think shame on them - I hope they;re not now looking for their ancestors. I remember my granny going on about that at the time cos our lot up there. Thankfully ours were Ok but even so those peeps who's stones weren;t. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. They should be thankful she never got her mitts on them (I didn;t know then owning up time my gt grandad was in there but I was in me teens).

Yet again this weekend I only got a fleeting glimpse as I drove along Barrhead Main St. Tho was stopped in traffic - thanks MCgills- long enough to actually look at the building my dad once owned - then told him off for selling it lol cos it was an auld one ( lol it was as well I remember it Blimey!)

He owned the shop premises and worked out of there in the 1970s. It's now an estate agent and the flat above on the corner of Arthurlie St and Main St. I worked in chemist next door when was at school  - Saturday lassie- when it was Mc Phersons - the man who also did specs (nice to see Frazer still there cos he bought him oot in late 70s)

Ah memories!

Ann