Isaac Beattie Rathfriland

[tabily]

Hello fellow searchers
Any help tracking down more information..would be most appreciated!
My GGG Grandfather Isaac Beattie emigrated to Australia via Scotland (where he married Martha McLeish on 25 March 1849 at the Bridgeton Free Church).
I believe Isaac was born in Rathfriland  C1825.
Isaacs Parents were William and Eleanor (Ellen) Beatty.  Any information or connections to them would be brilliant.  According to the immigration records William Beatty was alive when Isaac and Martha came to Australia in 1852
Ellen Beatty died on 25 November 1873 in Rathfriland, Newry aged 86, with Isabella Reid at her side
I would love to know about any siblings of Isaacs and any information on his parents William and Ellen Beatty..  I have 2  letters from Ellen to Isaac dated 7 October 1864 and 16 June 1865.  Ellen was living in Lissize with her daughter Sarah Beatty.  Isaac was sending Ellen and Sarah money.  Ellen mentions the following people:
Robert Carson Jane and children (Jane possibly Isaacs sister???)
William Reid Isabella and child( Isabella possibly Isaacs sister?)
Ellen McCrum and husband
John Campbell Mrs and family
Aunt Jane Moore and family (had daughter Rachel who married Isaac Bready of Tamery) and son? James Moore who came to Australia. 
Thanks
Caroline

[aghadowey]

Found the following in IGI (www.familysearch.org) which seems to tie in to the details you posted-
Isaac BRADY m. Rachael Moore and had:
1. Dvid Lexander born 16 May 1866 Co.Down
2. Isaac born 7 May 1869 Co.Down

There are lots of Beatties in Co. Down listed in Ros Daves' website and you might want to go through and check all the other surnames you've listed as well-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm

[tabily]

Thanks very much..shall do!

[maryderry]

hope these two marriages help.

Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 13 Nov 1856
Groom Name william REID
Bride Name isabella BEATTY
Church Rathfriland First Presbyterian Church
Parish Drumgath
Civil District Newry
County Down





Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 16 May 1865
Groom Name isaac BRADY
Bride Name rachel MOORE
Church Rathfriland First Presbyterian Church
Parish Drumgath
Civil District Newry
County Down

                                             regards mary.

[tabily]

Hi Mary..
Thanks so much for your post .. I was struggling with which church they may have come from, so you have given me a great lead. 
Can you tell me where/how you got this so I can try and track the rest of the family and hopefully sew them all together.
Thanks

[aljepeka]

Hi,

I think we have a connection.   Check out my posting from a few weeks ago. re Isaac Brady/Bradey  from Tamary Clonduff Parish/ Rathfriland. 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,383958.0.html

I personally am not related to the Brady's (at least I do not think so!! : )  but Have posted the request for a friend .

I will let them know to get in contact.

Regards,
Aljepeka

[tabily]

Hi aljepeka..

This is the information I have transcribed from the letters I have which matches the marriage info from Mary Derry in earlier posts..

"Aunt Jane Moore and family is well I have to inform you that her daughter Rachel was married on the 17th May to a man called Isaac Bready of Tamery he holds a piece of land and they are pretty comfortable..

So hopefully this will help cross match! I don't know the maiden name of my GGGG grandmother..My guess is its Moore..and Aunt Jane is her sister..
Looking forward to more info... Looking good so far!
Cheers Caroline

[aljepeka]

Here is the wedding details of Isaac Brady and Rachel Moore.

I know you have already been informed of the church but this names her father who would have been married to 'Aunt Jane Moore'.  A Jane Moore is also a witness at the wedding - (as to it being your 'aunt Jane' or possibly her daughter ?? we need to research it more)

Church Marriage Record
               
Date of Marriage:   16:05:1865         
Parish / District:   Drumgath      County:   Co. Down
   Husband      Wife   
Name:   Isaac   Brady      Rachel   Moore   
Address:   Tamary      Lissize   
Denomination:            
Occupation:   FARMER         
Age:            
Status:            
                  
   Husband's Father      Wife's Father   
Name:   David   Brady      James   Moore   
Address:            
Denomination:            
Occupation:   FARMER      FARMER   
   Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother   
Name:                  
Address:            
Denomination:            
Occupation:            
                  
   Witness 1      Witness 2   
Name:   James   Bready      Jane   Moore   
                  
                  
Notes:   
 

 Unfortunately as is normally the case with Irish records the Mother is not named.

Regards,Aljepeka

[tabily]

Hi Aljepeka..
Wow..that is great... Definately need to dig some more..and need to think about it some more!! I really think they have to be all the same people from the map Lissize seemed pretty tiny..

The most "obvious" solution to me is that James Moore and Aunt Jane Moore were married.. Rachel Moore was a daughter (who married Isaac Brady/Bready) and James Moore (snr) was my GGGG Grandmother Ellen Beattys (younger??brother)..Ellen would have been 77 when the letters below were written.. but how to prove/disprove it all??!!

Moore was the middle names of 2 of my  Isaacs children and the James they mention below was probably the brother of Rachel.  HMMM

Did they usually say if the father was deceased on the wedding certificate?  As Ellen always named the man first in her letters..and there was no reference to a man/husbandwhen she talked about aunt Jane Moore

I had another look at the letters..I know you are interested in the Brady side..but I want to put it all out there!

Lessize,  7th October 1864
Aunt Jane Moore and family is well, they feel very thankful to you for the information you have given them about James, they have written to him evry month since you sent his adress.

Lessize 16th June 1865
Aunt Jane Moore and family is well I have to inform you that her daughter Rachel was married on the 17th May to a man called Isaac Bready of Tamery he holds a piece of land and they are pretty comfortable.  They got no letter from James by the last mail they got a newspaper they expect a letter from him by this first mail, John Campbell Mrs and family is well, I cannot say that we have anything more to write that would interest you, give our love to James Moore.  William intends to write to him in a few days.

PS.. I did try to track James Moore..but its such a common name..the ones I did find couldn't have been him..shall try looking again
cheers
Caroline