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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 14 June 09 15:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Full,

I have got quite fond of you Paice family :) and have been following them around on census data.

Henrietta, born 1830 seems to like staying with people also. In 1861 she is with sister Eliza Vanner, but family is transcribed as Farmer ::)
I found a marriage 1884 for her and yes she married quite late in life;

Henrietta PAICE
Richard DEACON
June 1884
Basingstoke 2c 374

Appears on 1891/1901 Census with Richard in Caversham, Oxfordshire and died March 1910, Henley, 3a 532, aged 79
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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 June 09 01:09 BST (UK) »
1861 William GLOVER Widower 42 Plumber & Painter empl 12 men + 1 boy at London Street, Basingstoke with 7 children and sister-in-law Mary Ann PAICE + others.
[RG09 piece 708 folio 35 page 25]

Was no-one commemorating Thomas?

It appears GLOVER & PAICE were connected by more than marriage for they were the Auctioneers of the Old Basingstoke Town Hall [see http://www3.hants.gov.uk/print/museum/willis-museum/basingstoke-town-hall.htm]
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 June 09 12:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Ladies,
Wow, you certainly have found a lot of information.  :)

I think we can confirm that Thomas belongs to the William Paice and Mary Heading family.
It was great to find William Paice and Mary Wigg, now its a challenge to go back further.
I am amazed with some of the info you gathered, how do you track it all down, very impressive.

I believe two of Thomas's brothers may have come to Australia. I have immigration records of:

- George Paice, age 25 (1833) arrived Victoria, 1858, Ship - Morning Light. I have a death certificate for George, 1864, Age 29 (1835) at Ararat, Vic. Record says he was single, parents unknown. Ararat was the same area where Thomas lived in Australia.

- William H Paice, age 26 (1834) arriving Victoria 1860, Ship - William Kirk. The Pioneer Index of Vic records a William Paice marriage to Mary Shaw in 1862 Regno 2152. I will have to send away for the Certificate or maybe I can buy online. So far I haven't found any descendants from William.

Thanks again  ;D
Rob
Paice - Basingstoke, Hampshire
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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 June 09 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Rob,
We all enjoy the chase :)

Have you tried the Australian board for info on the possible descendants of William Paice ?

Trish
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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 01:21 BST (UK) »
I think we can confirm that Thomas belongs to the William Paice and Mary Heading family.

I wish I could find supporting evidence!

The Will of William PAICE HRO ref: 1829A/51 Cabinet Maker of Basingstoke mentions wife Mary, and sons George & William.
Although he had held a fair bit of property, including business premises which had passed to his sons, his remaining estate was sworn not to amount to £300. [Burial 31 Jan 1829 aged 62]

The Will of William PAICE 1843A/090 Cabinet Maker & Upholsterer mentions wife Mary, brother George, son Charles and other children [presumed females] not mentioned by name!  Admon was granted to Charles, the surviving executor, 17 Nov 1843, amount under £3,000. 

Charles died 10 Dec 1860 and his Will mentions wife Elizabeth Mary; Cousin Henry Shepherd PAICE of Curridge [Chieveley] in the County of Berks, Gent., [Uncle George's son];  Brother-in-law Edward HAYES junr of Andover, Draper; and mother Mary PAICE.  Effects under £4,000.  This Will was on faded microfilm and very difficult to read.  However, if Thomas had survived I would have expected a mention in his father's and/or brother's will.  At my next visit to HRO I will request to view the original document that was filmed in order to discount the possibility I might have missed other names, which I doubt.

Amongst the Basingstoke burials:
02 Oct 1824 Thomas PAICE 2 yrs 7 mos
21 Feb 1829 Jane PAICE 3 wks

On 01 Aug 1862 Mrs Charles PAICE's request was agreed that her name be transferred from London St Congregational Church, Basingstoke, to the books of the ch. worshipping in East St., Andover.

I think we should widen the net to include other parishes on the North Hants/Berkshire borders.  There is someone doing a one-name study on the PAICEs who might have encountered some interesting records.   
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Dee-Jay,
Doesn't look good for poor old Thomas does it  :(
There has got to be a link to the family somewhere, Thomas named two of his children:
- Nelly Glover Paice b1863, Greatwestern, Vic, Aust.
- Bessie Hayes Paice b1866, Greatwestern, Vic, Aust
Bessie died in 1867, then later they had another girl and named her Bessie Hayes Paice b.1877, Pleasant Creek, Vic, Aust, near Greatwestern.
I was just speaking to one of my cousins (who we found through information gained on RootChat) and she had information on a William Paice and Mary Heath, married 1803. She doesn't know the source. Would seem a bit of a gap to Thomas b.1824/26
Your help has been much appreciated.
Rob
Paice - Basingstoke, Hampshire
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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 18:19 BST (UK) »
Henrietta, born 1830 seems to like staying with people also. In 1871 she is with sister Eliza Vanner, but family is transcribed as Farmer ::)
I'm a bit mystified with this.  I have her housekeeping for a cousin at Leckhampstead [RG10 piece 1252 folio 7 page 5].  I have William & Eliza VANNER + children at St Giles, Reading [RG10 piece 1283 folio 63 page 26]

I agree, Rob, it's too much of a coincidence for Thomas not to fit in with the family.  It might be worthwhile checking that the surname PAICE has not been mistranscribed as PRICE in 1851.  I submitted loads of 1861 corrections to findmypast.com overnight. 
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hi dee jay,

Let me de-mystify it for you :) I made a mistake and you are correct. I should have said 1861 Cenus :-[
RG9/748/101/12
I will amend the post. Sorry for the confusion. You are doing an amazing job on this posting :)

Cheers,
Trish
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Re: Thomas PAICE b.abt 1826 Basingstoke
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 12:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Full,

There is a marriage on the IGI for a William Paice to Mary HEATH, 26 September 1803, Baughurst, Hampshire.
Having said that have not found any children born to them with my resources

trish.
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