Metropolitan Police Records Online

[beatrice834]

Hi Barnaby, congratulations on all the work you have done, and for your help to researchers. I was directed to your site by another rootschat member.
I am interested in a James Bowen who enlisted with the Met on 25/9/1848 and was dismissed  on 12/7/1852.  His descendant found out this much at Kew from MEPO4/334, but wants to know if he can find out why he was dismissed.
Do you have access to these earlier records?  thanks.

[BarnabyP]

Hello Beatrice834.

Thank you.

I'm not sure that records that detail this information are available for this period. You might try the police orders in MEPO 7. But the detail about police officers tends to start a little later than 1852. It's worth having a check if you're there. I'm just not sure that records exist.

Otherwise you can always give the team at MPS Historical Collection a go at the email address in my last post. They could have something.

Yours, BarnabyP

[BarnabyP]

I just wanted to post to let you all know that there is a page on Your Archives which lists the details that can be found on Metropolitan Police pension records up to around 1920 - Metropolitan Police pension record details.

Hope that this is of some use to anyone who is looking at these documents.

Yours, BarnabyP

[Ceryswyn]

I just want to say a HUGE Thankyou to you for making this available to us, and another big thankyou to Rootschatters that have talked so much that I could find it just by searching the forums for police

I do have a quick question.

I had a look at the photo provided on flicker (by the way if I download this is it safe to add to public trees online or should I not share it?) and after my gg grand fathers name covering the next two columns it says R. P. in huge letters. These are in the columns designated for "No of certificates granted to constable if not dismissed" and "When certificates sent to Division"

The record is for Thomas H Scully,

P    71995    PC    Scully    Thomas H.    1893-03-14    1886-08-02    MEPO 4/340 [Pg 19]

Any light anyone could shed on that would be lovely.

Thanks again for the dedication it must have taken to provide this

Helen

[BarnabyP]

Hello Helen. Glad to read that you are making good you of the resource.

The photos are released under the following licence: Attribution, Non-Commercial and No Derivative Works, which is the same licence that the Metropolitan Police are using for their own photos on flickr. Under these terms you're safe to use them in a family tree on the interwebs.

I've had a quick search, because I remembered that R.P. stands for Resignation Permitted, on TNA's website and found this.

"The abbreviation RP stands for 'resignation permitted' <br />and is replaced in October 1920 by RR 'required to resign'."

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I'm not entirely sure what that means but I interpret it to mean that he was made to resign. It would be interesting to read what other people think.

Hope that helps, BarnabyP

[Ceryswyn]

That helps a lot actually. Thankyou.

There is a somewhat half remembered family story about an ancestor that jumped in front of a train. My Grandma had an inkling it was this fella. If he was indeed forced to resign for something it would add a plausible reason for taking his own life. I shall have a lot of fun trying to track down the origins of this family skeleton

Thanks to the information I could find in your records I now have a request for his service records in the works so thankyou so much once again.


Helen

[BarnabyP]

Hello all. I just wanted to update you and let you know that I have made available the Alphabetical Registers of Joiners on Flickr they cover the following references, years, warrant numbers:

• MEPO 4/333, 1830 – 1842, 4988 – 19892
• MEPO 4/334, 1843 – 1857, 19889 – 35804
• MEPO 4/335, 1878 – 1891, 62845 – 77318
• MEPO 4/336, 1892 – 1902, 77319 – 88811
• MEPO 4/337, 1902 – 1911, 88812 – 100006
• MEPO 4/338, 1911 – 1933, 100007 – 123091

There aren't any indexes or transcriptions (yet) on Your Archives, but hopefully they will still be of some use to the more strong willed researcher. Indexes are something that I will work on for a later date.

Yours, BarnabyP

[BarnabyP]

Just wanted to update everyone that I have just finished transcribing the latter books in the Registers of Leavers. It can be found on Scribd here. The document has been ordered by the surname and first name to make it easier for people to search by that mechanism.

They are provided as is, as they require yet further checking to search out errors that have no doubt been made during the process of typing. Hopefully this will help people still further in finding their Metropolitan Police ancestors.

Yours, BarnabyP

[KittoFitz]

Thank you for all the hard work.  Really interesting.

In the course of my family tree research I am trying to trace information about a John Wood who I believe was born in Hampstead.  I can find no trace of his birth details and he does not appear on the 1841 census but I see from the 1851 census that his occupation is down as ‘formerly a Police Constable out of employ’. 

Thanks to your records I can see that a John Wood joined the force on 16 July 1835 - Warrant number 10,693.  Is there any more information available which would would verify that this is the same person I am looking for?  E.g. date of birth, date of leaving the force and reason.

Any advice would be welcome.

Thank you.