COMPLETED: James SEMMENS family c1850

[Cymru42]

Hi

Looking for anyone else who has been researching the Semmens family of miners, who moved to the Rhondda in Wales in the late 1800s.

Jacqui

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jacqui,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat. 

Hope you find some connections. I see you have found the Surname Interests Table and entered your interest so that is good.

If there is anything we can help you with just ask. Do you know where in Cornwall your family were from?

All the Best.............Kris 

[Cymru42]

Thanks for responding so quickly!

I have James and his wife, Caroline (nee Guy) born in either St Hilary or Perranuthnoe, Cornwall.

The frustrating part is that no matter which generation I am researching or if they are in England or Wales, everyone has the same name!!

Jacqui

[krisesjoint]

Hi Jacqui,

Is this the couple who moved to Wales? (James and Caroline) I have just been taking a look at 1891 and 1901 in Wales and I see a James Thomas b about 1862 Perranuthnoe and his wife Jane in Neath Glamorgan. Not spotting a James and Caroline.

Trouble with a name like this is it can have so many variants Simmons even Symons/Symonds. Also see a  James 1850 St Just and wife Elizabeth in Llantrisant.

Kris 

[Cymru42]

Kris

I know it's definitley Semmens. My great grandfather (David Emmanuel) was born in Pontypridd in 1892 - moved to Australia in 1949. His father is William Thomas Semmens, possibly born in Penzance in 1857. He married Mary Hannah Hodges - somewhere.

William Thomas Semmens' father was James Semmens, son of Thomas Semmens and Martha Roberts. I think william moved to Wales, possible beofre he married Mary Hannah. (I know these names are correct, as William Thomas and Mary Hannah are also the names of David Emmanuel's eldest two children.)

Cheers.....Jacqui

I am trying to determine actual places of birth and the correct siblings! In the 1861 census, it appears that there is a Simmons family living next door, with parents James and Jane Simmons. Phew!

[regross]

Hello,

I think we might be connected

M grandmothr's older sister married a Semmens in Wales and migrated to Australia.

She was Lily Maude Davies a born Rhonda Wales 1892 died 1982 Australia.nd she married David Emmanuel Semmens.

My grandother was Verinder (Vereinda on 1901 census) Davies b 1894.

They weere the children of James Davies and Sarah Chilcott.

regards

Robyn in Australia

[deb usa]

Hi


In 1881 :
Llantrisant, Glamorgan, Wales
20 Britania Rd
William QUARTLEY head mar 48 coke brewer b E?ford,Somerset
CAROLINE wife 48 b perr??
William H son coal miner 19 b Plymouth
Samuel 16 coal miner b ditto
Albert J son 13 b ditto
WILLIAM THS. SEMMENS 24,son-in-law , coal miner b St Heller, Cornwall
Jane Browning visitor mar 77 b ?? Devon
(s-i-l is sometimes used instead of step son)

marriage:
Caroline SEMMENS = William QUARTLEY
Dec q 1871 
Pontypridd , Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan 
11a 537 


1871
Llantrisant, Glamorgan
Caroline Symonds head wid tailoress b Pearran??
James son 22 collier b St Just ... in 1851 he is with James, Caroline and 2 month old Mary Jane in St Just, Lafronda...transcribed as Semmons. 1861 he is grandson.
Martha 16 b marazion
THOMAS 14 collier b ditto
George 13 collier b Ditto

Still looking for Thomas' marriage

deb

[deb usa]

In 1891,  Llantrisant, Glamorgan, Caroline Quartley is widowed, 58, green grocer b Perran, Cornwall. Her step son Samuel is ith her...next door is Albert Quartley with his family.

1891
Llanwonno, Glamorgan
North Rd
William Thomas Semmons (33, b Cornwall) ...transcribed as LEMMERS is living with Mary Anna (wife, 26)  and children:
Mary E (6), William H (3) and Sarah A (1).

still can't find marriage 

[deb usa]

I wonder if this could be their marriage ... and they are both using their middle names ?  

Thomas Simmons and on same page Hannah Hodges
Sept q 1882 
Pontypridd Glamorgan 
11a  514 

Caroline's death:

Caroline Quartley
bc 1829 , 67 years
Dec q 1896
Pontypridd , Glamorgan
11a 311


James' death:
James Semmens
bc 1825 age 42
June q 1867
Penzance  Cornwall
5c 205a

also This one ... Nicholas S Semmens bc 1861 , brother of William Thomas (1857), s/o James and Caroline.

death
Nicholas Scholar Semmens
dec q 1862
 Penzance Cornwall
5c 22


deb