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Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« on: Saturday 06 June 09 17:45 BST (UK) »
Help please - With Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes, born in 1886 in Barton-Upon-Irwell, Lancashire.  Married Robert Greenough in 1905 in Barton -U-I.  Last recorded alive in the 1911 census in South Elmsall with her husband and family.

I can't find her death, either in the GRO registers, local Registry Office registers or Cemetery records for South Elmsall under all variations of the name Greenough and also in the GRO registers under Hughes.

Robert re-married in 1919 and his status on the marriage certificate was that of widower.

I am wondering if she may have changed her surname and her death was registered under her new name.

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 June 09 07:29 BST (UK) »
Hi genie-ologist and welcome to rootschat.

if she changed her surname that would imply divorce wouldn't it?

It wasn't very common in those days.. so there's a puzzle there..
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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 June 09 08:37 BST (UK) »
Where did Robert remarry?What age was shown on the 1911 census for Lilian?

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 June 09 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi and thanks for your warm welcome to Rootschat.

Robert re-married in Wigan but was living in Yorkshire at the time.

Lilian's age on the 1911 census was 25 yrs.


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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 19:52 BST (UK) »
I was just looking at the census for Lilian previous to her marriage,was she down as an adoptive daughter on the 91 with a family called Hollis,just wondering if this comes into the equation anywhere. Only a thought there is no question of bigamy is there.because divorces were hardly heard of because of the expense sometimes bigamy was committed.

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 20:57 BST (UK) »
Have you seen the marriage in Dec Qtr 1919 Lily Greenough in Yorkshire?

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 05:15 BST (UK) »
dotty, wasn't bigamy a jailable offence? :-\

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 June 09 08:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Charlotte

Yes it was a jailable offence if they got found out.It was only a suggestion,hope I didn't offend,It may be worth looking at thet marriage of Lily it seems funny that was in 1919 perhaps they did divorceThere must be somewhere were divorce records are kept.

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Re: Lilian Mary Ellen Hughes (Greenough)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 June 09 08:05 BST (UK) »
Braithwaite,Roney,Hartley,Jackson,Reed, Cumberland /Westmorland .Livesey,Hartley,Taylor,Sefton,Harrison,Knowles,Lancashire.Bottomley,Schofield,Woodhouse ,Hobson ,Norcliffe  and Hartley West Yorkshire.Bottomley Dumfrieshire and Lanarkshire.Pinder ,Warwickshire.Kisby ,Cambridgeshire

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