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Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:00 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I am looking for the parents of an ancestor of mine called Thomas Callow, born in Banbury in 1893.
I have ordered in his Birth Certificate and his parents are James Callow and Annie Elizabeth (then I believe) Tebby.
Their first child according to the census and subsiquent check was born in 1888.
However I can't find a record of her birth in Northampton (the census says Aynho), nor a record for their marriage anywhere.

Has anyone got any suggestions for me as I am unsure where I can look next?

Thanks in advance,

LDB

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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:03 BST (UK) »
Hi, Do you have them on earlier census?

If so what was Thomas' occupation?

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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:19 BST (UK) »
for ref:
1901   RG13;  1406;  72;  44

James Callow 56  head ... maker (written over Road Lab) b. Banbury
Annie E  36  wife b. northants a......
Ellen M  12 dau.  b. banbury (al children b. Banbury)
William S 10  son
Thomas G  8  son
Emily D  5  dau.
Alice L 3  dau.
Arthur R son 2 months 
Laura E  23  sister  paper box maker b. s.......

sorry the enumarator has really neat writing just not very readable for me - maybe he should have been a doctor instead of an enumarator.
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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:22 BST (UK) »
Hi all  :)

The 1891 census* shows a daughter in law (stepdaughter) Agnes Gibbs age 5 born Surrey Croydon. Maybe we should be looging for a Callow/Gibbs marriage.

*RG12/1183 9 11
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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
Do you have Annie in 1881 yet?

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=16734445
RG11/1531 12 18

In 1871 she's with parents William and Ellen at RG10/1467 57 17 (named Anne Maria)

Shout if you need transcriptions

Edit: I thought she was the one named Anne Maria, but the only Tebby/Gibbs marriage I can see is
Hannah Elizabeth Tebby / William Gibbs, Mar 1884 Brackley, so she must be Hannah Elizabeth age 6 instead   

Oops - no idea why I called him William, sorry!
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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:29 BST (UK) »
I have them on the 1901 and 1891 Census'.
The birthplace for Annie is a bit more legible on there, thats how I found it was Aynho.

Thomas G Callow is my ancestor, his parents birth and marriages are what i'm looking for. In particular the marriage.

Thanks for the 1881 link Tati, I hadnt got round to looking for that.

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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi all  :)

The 1891 census* shows a daughter in law (stepdaughter) Agnes Gibbs age 5 born Surrey Croydon. Maybe we should be looging for a Callow/Gibbs marriage.

*RG12/1183 9 11

was just looking in to that!
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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:36 BST (UK) »
So do you think she could have been widowed or divorced by Mr Gibbs, then married James Callow?

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Re: Birth and Marriage Brick Wall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 June 09 11:37 BST (UK) »
Agnes Gibbs was born Croydon
maybe we are looking in wrong area??

1891 shows Nellie Callow is that Ellen from 1901 ?
also John W is he William from 1901

i did find a mariage for Annie Elizabeth Tebby here and looked for a subsequent mariage to callow maybe she married a Gibbs in between?
 
Marriages Sep 1886  London C  1c 10  
BROWN  James    
GIBBINS  Mary Ann    
Kent  Herbert Harcourt      
TEBBY  Annie Elizabeth    
 
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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