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*Completed* 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« on: Thursday 04 June 09 04:50 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I need a lookup for the following family...many thanks in advance for all the help!!

James Simpson b. abt  1816
Margaret b. abt 1817
Maria b. abt 1855 Ashton
Alice b. abt 1861      "
James b. 1863         "

I'm pretty sure that the deaths I found in 1876 & 72 are the parents as Alice and James were living with Maria and her husband on the 81 census.

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Bedfordshire - BRADDEN, TENNANT
Berkshire - AUSTIN, AWBREY, BALDING
Lancashire - BALDING, BRADDEN, BRIGG(S), CUTTLE, ELLIS, HAGUE, JONES, LEVER, POTTS, WHITEHALL
Middlesex - BURRY, JONES, RAZEY, TENNANT
Surrey - BALDING, JONES
Wiltshire - BURRY, POVEY, RAZEY, TRUEMAN
Yorkshire - CUTTLE, ELLIS, WILLIAMS

Fermanagh, Ireland - ELLIOT

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 June 09 05:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Electra

I think this is the family in 1871

39 -41 Portland St , Ashton - Under - Lyne

Simpson, James, Marr , 55, Clogger (employing one boy)
born Middleton Lancashire
Simpson, Margaret, Marr, 48, born Torington, Lancashire
Simpson, Sarah A, dau, unm, 25, Cotton Weaver, born Ashton-under -Lyne
Vaughn, Mary, dau, unm, 25, Cotton Weaver, born AUL
Simspon, William, son, unm, 20, Clogger, born AUL
Simpson, Maria, dau, 15, Cotton Weaver, born AUL
Simpson, Jesse, son, 13, Iron Moulder ( apprentice), born AUL
Simpson, Alice, dau, 9, Scholar, born AUL
Simpson, James, son, 7, Scholar, born AUL

The handwriting is quite bad on the census so this is the best of what I could make out.

Troods
Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 June 09 05:44 BST (UK) »
Do you think this is the right family Electra because i think I have found them in 1861 with another elder sibling?

Also Mary Vaughn is transcribed as Mary Vernon in this particular census and she is James's stepdaughter.

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Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 June 09 05:45 BST (UK) »
Hey Troods,

I'm positive that this is the right family!! Woohoo a lot more kids that I didn't know about :)

Bedfordshire - BRADDEN, TENNANT
Berkshire - AUSTIN, AWBREY, BALDING
Lancashire - BALDING, BRADDEN, BRIGG(S), CUTTLE, ELLIS, HAGUE, JONES, LEVER, POTTS, WHITEHALL
Middlesex - BURRY, JONES, RAZEY, TENNANT
Surrey - BALDING, JONES
Wiltshire - BURRY, POVEY, RAZEY, TRUEMAN
Yorkshire - CUTTLE, ELLIS, WILLIAMS

Fermanagh, Ireland - ELLIOT


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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 June 09 06:11 BST (UK) »
Great news

1861 Census

41 Portland St,

Simpson, James - Clogger and Pattern Maker
Simpson, Margaret - listed as Housekeeper
Simpson, John Frost aged 17
Simpson, Sarah Ann
Vernon, Mary
Simpson, William James
Simpson, Mary
Simpson, Jesse

All children born AUL

Note :
Interesting that Mary Vernon is James stepdaughter and John Frost is James son. Mmmmm Margaret must have been married before or something.

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Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 June 09 06:29 BST (UK) »
That is so wonderful!!

I always thought that Margaret's surname was Lattice but since Mary showed up I did a search on familysearch and found a Margaret Vaughn marrying John Latus in 1851. I'm still confused about the birthdates of these children and everything else.

James must have married before this and had some of the older children since I don't have him marrying Margaret until 1853... ???
I'm confused but that's pretty normal LOL

I don't suppose that you have access to the 1851 and could take a look for James? If not no worries.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I really appreciate all this...I wouldn't be very far along without great people like you.  :)

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Bedfordshire - BRADDEN, TENNANT
Berkshire - AUSTIN, AWBREY, BALDING
Lancashire - BALDING, BRADDEN, BRIGG(S), CUTTLE, ELLIS, HAGUE, JONES, LEVER, POTTS, WHITEHALL
Middlesex - BURRY, JONES, RAZEY, TENNANT
Surrey - BALDING, JONES
Wiltshire - BURRY, POVEY, RAZEY, TRUEMAN
Yorkshire - CUTTLE, ELLIS, WILLIAMS

Fermanagh, Ireland - ELLIOT

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 June 09 06:36 BST (UK) »
Will see if I can find them in 51  - no probs

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Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 June 09 06:41 BST (UK) »
Found a birth for a

John Frost Simpson 1843 Apr May Jun Ashton Under Lyne

Sarah Ann Simpson 1844 Jan Feb Mar AUL

Could be possible births of eldest siblings

Williams- Devon to Vic Oz;
Holmes - Donnegal to Vic Oz; Hall Westmoreland/Kent to Vic Oz;
Shipwash - Kent;
Edwards - Lambeth;
Nolan - Ireland;
Grady - Kerry to WA Oz;
Matson - Nova Scotia to SA Oz

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Re: 1861/71 Census - Ashton-under-Lyne - SIMPSON
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 June 09 07:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It appears that James Simpson is on the unfilmed part of the 1851 census so you may need to start a new thread with "unfilmed" in the title.

This is from the index:

41 Portland Street AUL
James C
Sarah
Benjamin
Margaret
John Frost
Sarah Ann
William J

See www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk

Regards,
Mo
Added - Margaret and Mary Vaughan appear to be living at 40 Portland Street AUL  ;D
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