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Thomas Owen
« on: Thursday 04 June 09 00:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has any info on the ansesters of Thomas Owen born 29th September 1799 in Cleobury Mortimer Salop. He married Elizabeth Beard in Quatford, Shropshire on 28th of July 1830 and had 6 children who were William , Jane, Thomas, Lucy, Elizabeth and Mary.
Any help with this family line would be great,
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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 June 09 00:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Was there another daughter called Fanny??? (age 4 in 1841)

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:14 BST (UK) »
His baptism is on the IGI at Familysearch same date as you have stated;
Parents SAML. and ELIZ.

Other siblings on Batch;
John 1796
Hannah 1793
You can get exact dates from site yourself.

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:20 BST (UK) »
No, there is no Fanny that I know of.
These are the birth dates for the other children

Elizabeth b. 1832
Thomas b.1833
William b.1939
Jane b.1843
Lucy b.1846
Mary b. 1849

There may be other children, I don't know
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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:28 BST (UK) »
This looks like the family in 1841

Quatford Salop
Thomas owen 41 Joiner yes
Elizabeth 36 yes
Thomas 9 yes
Fanny 4 yes
William 1 yes
John Beard 19 app yes
James Bruicksham ? 25 J no
HO107 93 5 6 6

fanny is not with the family in 1851

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:35 BST (UK) »


Fanny is probably an Elizabeth, maybe the first one died? And also first Jane?


Do you have exact dates for Jane/Elizabeths baptism as they are on IGI;
Elizabeth OWENS, christened Rodington, 12 December 1830
Jane OWEN, chr. Rodington, 1 December 1833

Cant find others at this stage.

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:42 BST (UK) »
I don't think fanny was Elizabeth - Fanny is more likely to be frances than Elizabeth -but this looks like her in 1851

Badger Wenlock Salop
Thos F Voddington Head M 46 Rector of badger Hawkshead Westmoreland
Harriet J wife 35 Wootton under edge Glos
Edward H son 1 Badger
Mary J daughter 6 mth Badger
Martha Smith serv U 23 Nurse Kingsland salop
Ellen Page serv 22 ousemaid Bridgenorth Salop
FANNY OWEN serv 13 Nursemaid Quatford Salop
HO107 1987 12 2

fanny went on to marry john Potter and brother Thomas Owen lived with her on one census

Do I have the correct family??/

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:43 BST (UK) »
IGI has a Lucy Owen b 7 Nov 1845 Quatford - but it is a submitted entry so has to be treated with caution

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Re: Thomas Owen
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 June 09 02:51 BST (UK) »
How accurate is the IGI? If I put in both Elizabeth Beard and Thomas Owen I get father as Thomas or Samual and I noticed that a lot of the references refer to thomas as being the father and the rest say samual is the father
I couldn't say which is correct because I got my info on his birthdate on the IGI.
I have his son Williams birth certificate and all says is born in 1939 Bridgenorth, Salop with father Thomas Owen (occupation joiner) and mother Elizabeth Beard. So I have gone from there

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