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1861 /1871 lookup please. Completed Thanks
« on: Wednesday 03 June 09 13:58 BST (UK) »

  Hi All.....

 Due to another post it has promted me to look at another line that marries in to my family.

  Looking for Arthur Barham b @ 1824 Chilham Kent
                wife Elizabeth b @ 1827 Nuneaton Warks
        know child Charles b @ 1851 Lambeth London.

  Many thanks

 Tazzie
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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 14:09 BST (UK) »

hi Tazzie

1861
RG9  P. 349  Fol. 129  Pg. 12


Private House, College Wharf, Lambeth

BARNHAM
Arthur  head  M  36  Corn Porter  B.  Kent, Chilham
Elizabeth  Wife  M  34                   B. Warks, Atherston
Mary Ann dau  13                          B.     ~           ~
John  Son  11                                B. Cheshire, Macclesfield
William  Son  8                              B.  London
Arthur  Son  6                               B.  Surrey, new Cross
Elizabeth  Dau  3                          B.     ~           ~
Charles  Son  1 mth.                     B.  lambeth
Mary  Wid  70   Charwoman          B.  Burton under Blean

Wrong age for Charles   :-\     It is transcribed as 1 mth.  It could be 11 years  -  entered in wrong column, it looks like, and crossed out - but, he is at the end of the list   :-\

Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 14:18 BST (UK) »

Mmnn  -  he's 11 years in 1871   :-\

1871
RG10.  P. 633  Fol. 88  Pg. 8


25 George Row, St Mary Bermondsey

BARHAM
Arthur  Head  M  46  Corn porter   B.  Kent, Chilham
Elizabeth  Wife  M 43                     B. Warks, Atherston
Mary Ann Dau  23   Laundress       B.  Warks, Abelborell
John  Son  21  Lighterman             B.  Cheshire, Macclesfield
William  son  18  Labourer             B.  City of London
Arthur  Son  16      ~                      B.  Kent, New Cross
Elizabeth  Dau  14  Fur cleaner      B.    ~           ~
Charles  Son  11                             B.  lambeth
Edward  Son  6                               B.  Lambeth


How sure are you of Charles age / born 1851 ?
This might not be him  ::)
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 14:58 BST (UK) »



   Hi Mum .....

  The one I have is found RG12/504  PAGE 27
  AT 115 Pomeroy St ?  Civil parish St Paul  USD Greenwich
  I have a very faded sheet and I read it as 30 but I think you are right he should only be 20.
 It is definatly the right family and by 1891 Charles is in the fur trade.

   Many Thanks for that even though I cannot see for toffee! ::)

   Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 16:49 BST (UK) »


   Hi Mum .....

  I am having a really bad day ....

 Rg12 is 1891 and he is shown as b 1861 so 30.... but I was looking at 1881 at the time and took off 30 from that to get 1851............  brain seriously stretched today..sorry...

 Can I be cheeky and ask if you can see him in 1901 at all ...please... and put me out of my slump and back on track.

    Thanks

 Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 17:44 BST (UK) »


Oh dear   ;D  ;D     Too much sun, perhaps   8)

1901
RG13.  P. 1631  Fol. 141  Pg. 36


41 Mount Pleasant Road, Walthamstow, Essex

BARHAM
Charles  head  M  40   ?? Seal skins  B.  Surrey, Lambeth
Alfraetta  wife  M  31                         B.  Surrey, Bermondsey
Edward  C  Son  3                              B.   ~           ~
Emily J  Dau  1                                    B.  Essex, Walthamstow
Alice B  Dau  3 mths.                          B.   ~             ~

     ;)   ;)
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:39 BST (UK) »


  Hi Mum ....

 I think it was..... been a real strange day still warm.

  Anyway brain has now been fed & watered and I will now digest all this info.Seal skins .... mmm not popular trade to be in now would it..?
 Thank you so much for the help ... I've lost the plot with my counting...... better improve I am in school tomorrow can't let the 5 year olds show me up! ;D

   Thanks again ....

   Tazzie
                     
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:52 BST (UK) »


I can't read the first word of his occupation   ???

It looks like   Unhavring   ???    But that dont make sense  ???

Is he the right chap, after all that ?

What an unusual name his wife had   :D
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: 1861 /1871 lookup please.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 19:08 BST (UK) »



  Hi...
          I thought this one would be easier than this but I may have to get the cert..
  I am sure this is the right Charles. I am trying to see if he links as father to Lillian Maud Barham who is with him & his parents in 1891. Lillian Maud marries into my family.
  1891 has him as married but no wife present. He does not marry Alfraetta (nee Cooper) until 1925 in West Ham.
 There is a marriage in St Olave in 1882 for a
                   Charles Barham to either Amelia Ann Davey or Caroline Roberts.
    Other groom being Joseph Twocock....... yes that IS what it says ;)
  Looks like I will have to save some more pennies to solve this one.

   Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk