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Farming or Mining equipment, or what is it they are sitting on?
« on: Tuesday 02 June 09 19:07 BST (UK) »
This a  picture of my father that was born in 1911 with his mother. Can any one tell me what they are sitting on?
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Re: Farming equipment or what is this?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 19:47 BST (UK) »
Only a guess but it looks like a well.

There seems to be a pulley and counterwieght with a rope going down below ground level.
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Re: Farming equipment or what is this?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Darlene,

You have some fascinating old photos there.

I think there are two items in this one, the lady appears to be sitting on a sort of trestle or possibly a sawing horse, separate from the other thing. The 'rope' looks to me more like a metal stay connecting to the wooden beam on the ground, and there may be a matching one on the far side. The top of the A-frame has 2 bearings to carry a shaft or axle, and the part the boy is sitting on looks as if it pivots at the bottom and is retained by a chain near the top. I'd say it was the remains of a piece of stationary equipment, something like a circular saw perhaps, bearing in mind the 'saw-horse' . . . but I'm probably way off the mark . . .

Maybe it was part of a well-head after all. You can picture it sitting over a well with a pulley fitted in the holes, but it seems a little too complicated really.

I do hope someone can positively identify it. I'm dying to find out.  ::)

Mike. :)
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Re: Farming equipment or what is this?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 23:38 BST (UK) »
I was stumped when I found this photo! It was nice to reconize my dad and grandmother, but the size of the photo was so small, that I scanned it at a high dpi,  and blew it up. Then could tell who was in the photo. But I had no idea what they are sitting on.
My dad was born in 1911, and he looks about 7 -9 in this picture, so I am guessing the time frame would be between 1918-1920.
We lived in Lafayette County, Wisconsin.
Thanks for the suggestions on this and hope we can figure out what it is!
Thanks again.
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Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
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Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
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Re: Farming equipment or what is this?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 10:05 BST (UK) »
Just looked up Lafayette County and noticed it was an important lead mining area. I wonder if the machinery could be connected with that? It could be part of a winch, perhaps. Or maybe something to do with the timber (lumber) trade?

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Re: Farming equipment or what is this?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 13:35 BST (UK) »
Mike, you are right about the lead mines in this area, but my family were farmers. The farm was 280 acres in 1950 and the family started farming when they arrived from Germany in 1852. Most of the lead miners were the families from Cornwall, England. There were some mines in the area, but not on our farm.
It could have been used for mining, so maybe I will alter the subject line and ad that!
Thanks again, Darlene
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Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
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Re: Farming or Mining equipment, or what is it they are sitting on?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Could be quite wrong, but perhaps it was an attachment to other farming equipment - fitting onto the back of something as in say:

A team of horses (or other animal) would be way off to the right (of say the photo), pulling say a plough, or tiller, and this implement fitted on top of the middle to rear of that plough/tiller. Thus someone sat with their back to the horse and dispersed seeds into the ploughed rows, while the person in charge of the horses and the plough/tiller etc sat facing the horses directing them where to go   :)

Not sure, but I think I heard that type of explanation once when at a museum where the equipment on display came under the heading "dead stock". That is "dead"  as opposed to "lives tock" which were the animals on the farm.  I remember he also said "deadstock" was only different  to his display of the old "capital equipment", as Capital Equipment was very expensive and the "attachments" being of course cheaper, and thus "dead" from a book-keeping point of view. 

Hope that helps rather than confuses you all.   The museum visit was in the mid 1970's and the chap was displaying his farming family's old equipment.   He was very old then and he had worked on the farm all his life, as had his forebears.  This was in NSW Australia, in the wheat belt communities.

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Re: Farming or Mining equipment, or what is it they are sitting on?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 17:40 BST (UK) »
I would tend to agree with Mike's thoughts. A circular saw could fit in those bearings while the bar your father is sat on could be attached to a traction engine via a pulley to power the saw.

Whatever it is, it looks a home made one off for a particular task. Another possibility, might be totally wrong on this but those metal stays could be pedal treadles? Those bearings and the frame could hold a block of wood to turn a hub/boss for waggon/cart wheel. A lathe for making wheel bosses perhaps? Failing that perhaps a device to make true the waggon wheels?

It looks a very interesting contraption and even I would like to know what it is!

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Re: Farming or Mining equipment, or what is it they are sitting on?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:48 BST (UK) »
I think the photo that I posted on the photo restoration site might be a better quailty and you can view it better.


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Belken/ Linnemann/Levermann/ Molitor- Affeln, Germany
Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
Gerlach- Eichsfled, Germany
 Rielly/Riley- County Monaghan, Ireland
Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
Madison/Matteson and McKinley