Bradmore wolverhampton, Gunmakers and Church Road

[DudleyWinchurch]

A couple more pictures which may be of interest to you.
A bus and crew parked outside the Bradmore Inn.
A bus and crew parked outside Bradmore school.

Bob.

Hi Bob,

Do you have date(s) for these pictures?  Especially the second one.  The detail is not quite clear enough to be sure but if the first man (left-to-right) in the second picture is an inspector, it could well be my grandfather.

Sheila

[cookiemonster122]

Hi, thank you for the photos, you were very kind to post them so late Bob. They are brilliant. many thanks laura

[cookiemonster122]

Hello, will be posting some pictures of the bradmore inn soon from when my father lived there, my father also worked at the Spinney hotel which is now apartments, he told me some wonderful stories of how the cows and other stock would be hanging on the hooks at the back of the hotel ready to be made into meals. It was from his work at the Spinney that he was able to buy his first MGB car which was quite an achievement at the age of 18. I cannot find any photos of the spinney hotel but i am trawling the website in hope! I am certainly going to make sure I take lots of photos for my future ancestors. Luckily my son was part of the Finchfield Flag and voted for his favourite design, which turned out to be the winner. Then the design was created by Phil Tibbets and is now a registered flag and hangs proudly around finchfield at Uplands school and Bhylls acre. Liz Millman Chair of the Finchfield Community Association can be contacted on  www.learninglinksinternational.com  for more information regarding the Finchfield Flag and also the Association. Finchfield community association also hold history groups at Uplands school and other interesting events. See LizBrant Topic posted on 5th March for more info.

[Uplands]

Hi Laura, what time period was your father at the Bradmore?
It used to be my local along with the Gunmakers Arms many years ago as I was born and bred in Uplands Avenue.
I look forward to seeing your photographs.

Bob.

[Uplands]

Bradmore Inn
This was taken in the days when the Bradmore Inn was on the opposite side of the road where the present day shops are situated. Trysull Rd straight ahead, Birches Barn Rd to the left and Broad Lane to the right. Where the two men are standing is where the present day bus stop is situated. The Bradmore school is just out of view on the left.


Bob.

[DudleyWinchurch]

A couple more pictures which may be of interest to you.
A bus and crew parked outside the Bradmore Inn.
A bus and crew parked outside Bradmore school.

Bob.

Hi Bob,

Do you have date(s) for these pictures?  Especially the second one.  The detail is not quite clear enough to be sure but if the first man (left-to-right) in the second picture is an inspector, it could well be my grandfather.

Sheila

Hi Bob,

just wondered if you have any more information on these pictures, or a note of the source of them?

Sheila

[Uplands]

Hi Sheila

Somewhere in my files there might be a little more information but you will have to bear with me. If I come across it I will let you know but don't hold your breath!

Bob.

[DudleyWinchurch]

Thanks Bob

[Pedrocut]

Many thanks for the reply.
Here is the map that I have, it's very similar to yours but a little more detailed.
I well remember the lane your mother talks about,it used to be a short-cut to Uplands Avenue. When you went through the gate at the top into the field you were in another world. On the same level were the air-raid shelters and to your left, but at a lower level was a playing field. This used to belong to Bingley St school and there was an old cricket pavilion. The boundary to the left adjoined the rear gardens to Uplands Drive and the boundary to the front adjoined the rear gardens in Uplands Avenue. There used to be a stream running along this boundary. We were friends with the Jones's who lived at 23 Uplands Avenue and they used to let us cross a little bridge into their back garden. I used to live at No. 20 across the road.
I used to go to Warstones Rd school and to get to school I could walk down Uplands Ave, cut across where the old farm used to be, walk along the stream and come out into Trysull Rd by Desboroughs stores. (there is still a shop there). I would then walk up to-wards where the Imperial dairy used to be and then cut left up a little lane which came out not far from the island at the top of Oxbarn Ave, then down to the school which had only just opened, 1941.
Happy days.

Hi Bob,

A few months ago I brought up the subject of Dead Lad's Grave and still it bugs me. Your mention above of a stream is very interesting and I have a tentative theory, but depends on the source and course of Graisley Brook. You may be able to help?

I think that the Anglo Saxon boundary, from the Wolverhampton Charter of 985, follows Graisley Brook to meet the Smestow Brook. On the modern maps there is a section of Graisley Brook shown, running between Merridale Road and Compton Road, but from there to the Smestow is now culverted.

On the boundary map shown in a book by Della Hooke, who seems to be a great authority on the subject, the brook takes a turn from a SE direction to a SW direction a short distance from the end of the modern map.

However, as I have confidence in the scale of the representation, the distance travelled by the brook is perhaps two thirds the distance of that from the turn to the Smestow. This would mean that it could come somewhere near your stream?

The bottom line here is that the Anglo Saxon boundary takes a left turn from an ancient road that passes Finchfield, to reach near the source of the missing brook. The point that it left the road was at a tree called "geaggan treow" and some take this to be a tree named after a person, but there is a theory that it may be "Gallows Tree"

Now Dead Lad's Grave is at a crossroads that could be quite close to this turn! 

All the best Peter