Need to find parents of a roaming person.

[tropicalj]

There is a Henry Thallon  appearing on  the 1856 Electoral Rolls  for Victoria   
Electoral Year 1856 
State  Victoria   District Talbot 
Subdistrict Carisbrook 

Henry Thallon  MAryborough Draper on Salary of 100 pound from  looks like Mckernie and Co Maryborough

So he may have been in Victoria before well before he married Elizabeth Hay

if he was born in 1831 as his death indicates  then he was 25 in 1856 so it is possible that it is him in 1856

Jenn

[cando]

Yes Cando I have all this info.

Even though Catherine didnt marry Henry Thallon until about 6 years after my Great Grandfathers birth Henry Thallon may have been known to the families.

Floozy I am aware that you have the information as I mentioned others may notice something you may have missed.  I think you may have missed the point of me detailing the little information that I found in a quick search.

I would say that Henry THALLON was well known to John GARRETT 

REAL PROPERTY ACT
Notice is hereby given that Henry Thallon and John Garrett of Richmond, Storekeepers, have applied to have brought under the provisions of the Real Property Act the land described at the foot hereof; and that the Commissioner of Titles has appointed that on the expiration of fourteen clear days from the date of this advertisement in the Government Gazette the Registrar General unless he shall in the interval receive and equeat to do so, proceed to bring such land under the provisions of the Act.
Dated Ninth day of March 1864.

THE LAND REFERRED TO
Part of portion number twenty-three, Parish of Jika-Jika, County of Bourke: Details of measurements..........Also part of the same portion lying at the north west corner having frontage to the Punt road of a hundred feet by a depth of three hundred and sixty three inches.

Horace Sampson
Assistant Registrar General

Jennings & Coote
37, Queens street, Melbourne
Solicitors for the applicants.


I suggest you place a request on the New Zealand board or have a browse of their resources board for shipping records. I have searched there albeit a while ago, and found they have lots of passenger/shipping records online.

Once again...the birth certificate of one of the children born in Victoria would give you his occupation.

If I get time later today I will search some trade directories for Victoria.  I realise this doesn't give you confirmation of the details you require but it does prove another link with the families.

Cheers
Cando

[tropicalj]

Well done Cando

you  have established a link between two families of  the names Floozy is chasing.

Jenn

[cando]

Sands & McDougall
1870, 1875
THALLON Henry [of R Garrett & Co]  Hotham Street, St Kilda

The last birth to Henry and Catherine in Victoria was in 1877 and there is no entry for Henry in the 1880 directory.  Perhaps they had moved to Adelaide by then.

Perhaps R GARRETT is Robert husband of Mary HAY.

Cheers
Cando

[Floozy]

Sorry Cando, you are so right.
What on earth was my brain thinking.

And in saying that Robert Garrett is my
Henry Thallon Garrett father.


Henry Thallon Garret was a grain broker (merchant) also Shire President of Nunawading and at one time was a green grocer in Richmond, could it be possible that  and I think his father was a grain broker too??. And yes Roberts brother was also living in Melbourne. He is buried in the same family grave.


Sacred
to the memory of
Robert GARRETT
died 29 Aug 1896 age 71 yrs
also his sons
William Scott
died 19 Apr 1871 age 18 yrs
James Hay
died 23 May 1874 age 19 yrs
and his brother
John
died 15 Sep 1885 age 63 yrs
also Mary
wife of above
Robert GARRETT
died 13 Oct 1898 age 73 yrs
and their only daughter
Mary Hay
died 26 Feb 1922 age 62 yrs.

I did not know what was Johns occupation was. So he may have been a Draper too?? or maybe something else.

Well this certainly brings the families a bit closer and how it came about that he married Catherine Hay??

Now their is no reason not to doubt this know.

But would still love to know that tiny bit of information to seal it.
So I can sort of now assume that she is.  But like all my research I always put unable to confirm link in not certain.

Oh I could kiss you all
thanks cando judb and tropical
 

[Floozy]

I will have a look at the New Zealand records.

I have not yet searched shipping records for New Zealand before.

Is the trade directories online for Victoria??

Would love to see them.

Cheers Floozy

[cando]

Is the trade directories online for Victoria??

No directories online for Victoria that I am aware of.  Sands & McDougall directories should be available at larger libraries and genealogy societies. 

Perhaps a request for help on the NZ board and detail Elizabeth's known history etc.  You could link previous posts but that may become confusing with the other family history.

I have had two forays into NZ passenger records and did find my OH's family arriving in Otago from Melbourne. Lots of records are online.

According to the death records Robert's and John's father was William.

GARRETT John
Father William   Mother Mary QUINN
Richmond 53 years [?transcription error]  1885  Reg#10161

GARRETT Robert
Father Garrett William  Mother Mary UNKNOWN
Richmond  71 years 1896 Reg#11245

I see you have the MI from Melbourne General Cemetery for the GARRETT's.

Good luck.

Cando

[Newvrovski]

Hi Floozy

Do you have any information on where Henry Thallon came from (before Tazmania)? I'm a Thallon and am doing some research on their tree. The majority of my line came from Fife in Scotland and a good number of them emigrated to Australia at some point.  It would be interesting to know if Henry was one of the lost Thallons

[Floozy]

Hello


I have not traced the Thallon family as I decend down from Henry Thallon wife 's line the Hays.  His wife Catherine was my Great Great grandmothers sister. (her name was Mary)

I do know that Henry Thallon was in Victoria for awhile as he worked for my GG Grandfather Robert Garrrett and his brother John,

My G Grandfather was named Henry Thallon Garrett  and Catherine  was his Aunt.

Please do keep in touch as I have recently heard form another Hay Decendant this week and hopefully we can find out more.

If you are a decendant of Henry and Catherine we would be very distant cousins.'

Henry and Catherine died in South Australia but you may already know this.

cheers Susan (aka Floozy)