looking for Armitage wilson Halliwell

[libby9]

Hi Rob,

I don't know whether Huddersfield Reg Office would have BMD's for Saddleworth as Saddleworth is now, for admin purposes, in the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham.  It used to be Hudd's district, but when the boundaries were changed back in the 1970's Saddleworth, although remaining in Yorkshire was no longer controlled from Wakefield (admin capital for West Yorks).  How confusing is that?  In view of the confusion I'd apply centrally to the GRO for Saddleworth cert's.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

[libby9]

looks like this is gonna be a toughy, Libby

Hi Rob,

It certainly is a toughie.  The Netherwoods' are doing my head in!   There's no births registered that I can find for any of the three children, which is odd.  I'm wondering if their parents weren't married, and therefore they were registered in their mother's name.  As they were living with only their father we have to assume their mother had died, maybe around the time Emma was born.  We know their father died before 1904, and probably either 1895 or 1898, if 1895 Charlotte would have been only 8 years old and too young to know her surname wasn't the same as her father's.  This is the only explanation I can come up with.

I have been unable to find either Charlotte or Emma on the 1901 census.  If their father had died before 1901 the children could have been in the workhouse (where sometimes inmates were enumerated by initials only).  I have a possible for Annie Elizabeth lodging in either (can't remember exactly)  Rastrick or Brighouse.

[rob67]

Hiya Libby sorry have not been on since yesterday, reallythink Debbies family does not want to be found lol,

[rob67]

Hiya Libby, ive found what i think is Robert, in 1901, was wondering if you think this is same Robert seems hes living with his aunt and uncle, hes a tobacco pipe maker here, were on Robert Marriage cert hes  Sewage pipe maker think this is a coincidence, or is it same Robert?

WILSON, Henry Head Married  M 51  1850 Tobacco Pipe Maker

 Mirfield
Yorkshire

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WILSON, Sarah Wife Married  F 42  1859
 Huddersfield
Yorkshire

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HALLEWELL, Robert Nephew Single  M 15  1886 Tobacco Pipe Maker
 Prescott
Lancashire

[rob67]

Sorry Libby just noticed,  the address on Roberts marriage is same as this 1 on here, 4 water royd Dalton, he was born in Prescott, wonder if he was an orphan?

[libby9]

Sorry Libby just noticed,  the address on Roberts marriage is same as this 1 on here, 4 water royd Dalton, he was born in Prescott, wonder if he was an orphan?

Well done, Rob.

The 1901 census record you found must be him.

In 1881 Henry Wilson age 31, born Mirfield and a tobacco pipe maker is living in Huddersfield with wife NANCY age 23, born Hudd's, and dau Edith age 5.

In 1891 age 41 he's with wife ALICE A age 32 and children Edith 15, Lewis 11, Oliver 4.

[katherinem]

Hi,

Either the father or mother would be a sibling of Henry Wilson.  Henry Wilson's father was Armitage Wilson born 1825 in Mirfield, Yorkshire; which fits very nice with the names Armitage Wilson Halliwell.

In my experience when you have a surname for a middle name, this is either because the child is born illegitimately and the surname of the father is given as a middle name or it is a maiden surname of either the maternal mother or paternal mother.  I am guessing in this case it could be the former!

I think the mother is one of the following daughters of Armitage Wilson:

Ann Wilson born 1852 in Mirfield
Sarah Wilson born 1854 in Mirfield

There was another daughter Matilda born 1857 but she married Charles Cusworth in 1877 and still with him in the 1901 census.

Kath

[libby9]

A Nancy Wilson died in 1st qrt 1891, Huddersfield, aged 33.

[libby9]

We need to find Robert in 1891.