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Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« on: Tuesday 26 May 09 14:30 BST (UK) »
Hello
 
I wonder if someone will be able to help me please?
 
I am trying to locate the graves of:
 
Ann Sutterby who died on 6 November 1886 at 54 Herbert Street, Blackley, Lancashire
Charles Sutterby who died on 21 April 1923 at 79 Herbert Street, Blackley, Lancashire
Elizabeth Alice Sutterby who died on 10 July 1927 at 79 Herbert Street, Blackley, Lancashire
 
I have contacted the Ops Cemeteries and they have no record so think that the Sutterby's may have been buried in  a church yard.  I don't know where else to look now

Many thanks for any help
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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

I have not been able to find Herbert Street on my 1922 map so not sure what churches to look for.

A starter would be http://www.stpeter-blackley.org.uk/ it is CofE also if they were Catholic it would be a sure fire bet they are in St Joseph cemetery, Moston

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Ken
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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 16:15 BST (UK) »
Just checked the 1901 census for a better idea of Herbert St and I have found it, it has long since gone

Godfrey map 96.15 Blackley & Lower Crumpsall 1915.

If they are Catholic I would be 100% sure they are in St Josephs.

Should you find them let me know and I will go and get photo of headstone if still standing.

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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 16:18 BST (UK) »
Type Herbert Street moston

http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/
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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 17:37 BST (UK) »
Hello Ken

Thanks very much for your replies.
As far as I am aware, none were RC's.
His son was married at Gill Street Chapel in 1907 which I think is Methodist

I am just really stuck. Is Moston Cemetery just for Roman Catholics?

Many thanks
Amanda

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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 18:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda

Methodist, now that throws a different light on the problem. The only Methodist graveyard near to Moston was in Cheetham Hill, a couple of miles away.

Cheetham Hill Wesleyan Cemetery. The burial ground to the original Cheetham Hill Wesleyan Methodist Chapel. The burial ground was later extended and the site regarded as a cemetery rather than a chapel. It was used for burials 1815-1968 and we have records for that period available to see on microfilm.

The major issue with this site is it was all dug up a couple of years ago and a Tesco car park placed over it.

We have a few threads on rootschat about this very issue, use your search box on here to read them.

Please read this as well http://www.rootschat.com/links/06eh/

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Ken
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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken

Thanks again for your information.  Oh dear, that is very sad news that Tesco's have built on it, poor people that were buried there!

You mention that the burial records are on fiche, do you know where I can view them or buy them please?

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 11:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Amanda

The people that were buried in it were dug up and dropped into a big hole in another cemetery in Bury "think it was Bury".

The records can be seen at Manchester Library, local studies

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Re: Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 May 09 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken

Thanks again for your information.  Oh dear, that is very sad news that Tesco's have built on it, poor people that were buried there!

You mention that the burial records are on fiche, do you know where I can view them or buy them please?

Many thanks
Amanda

Amanda,

Dont despair yet!
My family were from the same area, also methodists, and I struggled to find burial records, (one of the Cheetham hill Weslyan threads is mine I think)
HOWEVER after searching I actualy discovered my family buried in Phillips park, Blackley & Manchester General Cemeteries.

I just tried searching the Manchester online burials website which covers all the cemeteries run by Manchester city council - but it appears to be down as its not bringing up any results (I put a name in there I KNOW is on the database cos its one I found on there & it says no results so I am pretty sure its a problem with the site)
http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenSearch.aspx


I would suggest emailing 
ops.cemeteries@manchester.gov.uk
or tel : Telephone: 0161 227 3201
Let them know you have tried using the website & its not working and could they look to see if the names you are looking for are listed at any of their cemeteries - I would add that there is a 'gap' in the records for Blackley Crematorium so not all records are there (My paternal grandparents records arent there & I know they should be)

By the way - Yes, Gill St was also methodist, My Grandad was in the Band there.

Gaille
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