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I wonder if anyone may be able to help with an information on a ship that an uncle was killed on in 1942. It is S.S., or in other places, HMS Glentilt which was under the control of H.M.S. President III.

I understand that this was a steamship but would it be a Royal Naval or Mechant Navy ship & can anyone help me with it's history &/or where I might find a photograph.

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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 May 09 23:57 BST (UK) »
For the ship's whereabouts you could download the Merchant Shipping Movement Crad here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8172232&queryType=1&resultcount=21

It's Merchant Navy - "HMS" signifies Royal Navy, S.S. signifies MN

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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 00:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much that is very helpful.
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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 00:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Tetbury...

You don't name your uncle but there is a reference here to a death on Glen Tilt in 1942..it wouldn't be him would it?

http://www.naval-history.net/xDKCas1942-12DEC1.htm
 

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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 00:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Milly,

Yes thank you he was Leslie Cooper listed as dying on 12th December 1942.
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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 00:49 BST (UK) »
There's a bit of background info on HMS President III here too.. 
http://www.dedworth.org.uk/history/hms_president_iii.htm

and a reference to what looks like it could be your Glen Tilt's history here (looks to be the same one  as it was sunk off Lowestoft 12/12/1942)    No picture yet but a few more clues.

http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/WWIStandardShipsWarT.htm
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http://www.teesbuiltships.co.uk/harkess/goodwillofbristol1920.htm  which says "12/12/1942 torpedoed by E-boat when 3 miles off No.4 Buoy, Lowestoft on passage London for Middlesbrough with cement."


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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 01:00 BST (UK) »
...and I presume you already have his Commonwealth War Grave info


http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ed/


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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 01:13 BST (UK) »
One last one before I go to bed..

There is a description of the torpedo action on coastal convoy FN-889 here although it relates to death of Able Seaman Blackman on another boat...It does mention that the Glen Tilt was also there on 12 december 1942 when the E-boats attacked by Torpedo.

Go to..  http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ee/
and search on Glen Tilt

and more in depth here....
http://www.warsailors.com/singleships/marianne.html

If you search on "FN 889" you will find a few more references to the convoy which sunk in what was known as "E-Boat Alley"

Milly
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Re: Death at Sea
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 20:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Milly for all this wonderful information, I don't know how you managed to find so much but I now understand the events so much better.

Sorry to have kept you up so late.

Thank you again.











 
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