Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1820: MCNALLY Catharine; AMOS T: STIEGLITZ

[Wiggy]

Were both references to Catharine  as per Sugar Cane??     Or was one of them with William Rook(e) on Perseverance?

What a name to give a ship  -  I ask you!    Sugar Cane - Sugar Pie - Sugar Baby!!      Not nearly as honourable sounding as - well,  'Perseverance'  for example!!  ( Or Kangaroo! )    SORRY GUYS - got carried away there for a moment.   It's the imaginitis - flares up every so often!

Cheers

Wiggy

[Wiggy]

See reply 225 -  Wish I could work out how to attach quotes!   I'll try again in a minute!

JM,    why are we throwing Eleanor Russell into the mix?   - Is she yours by any chance?   Or are you just trying to make the pudding mix a bit more fruity?       

Wiggy

[regross]

Wiggy

to attach qoutes, highlight what you want to quote copy using control C or from the edit menu on the tool bar, go to where you wasnt it to be  and use control V or paste from the edit tool menu. highlight it again in the new area and go to the box with all the buttons above the reply area and click on the box that has a talking balloon on it.

If anyone can give Wiggy easier directions feel free

Robyn

[davclem]

Early Sealers
 
Macquarie Island was first discovered in July 1810 by Captain Hasselburgh of the Perseverance while searching for fur seals in waters south of New Zealand. On 18 July eight men were landed with nine months supplies before the Perseverance returned to Sydney for further men and equipment. Despite attempts to keep the location a secret, by December 1810 another three Sydney based sealing gangs had been landed on the island. In the first 18 months of operations around 120,000 fur seals were killed. By 1815 the population of an estimated 250,000 animals had dramatically declined, with only 5,000 skins being taken during the entire season.

At least one of the earliest gangs on the island had also turned to the exploitation of elephant seals for their oil. Permanent try works for the production of oil were certainly established by 1813 when a gang from the Mary and Sally was landed at the Isthmus to put the existing works in order. Within a decade sealing operations at Macquarie Island had turned exclusively to the exploitation of elephant seals. Huts and try works were located at the Isthmus, Sandy Bay, Lusitania Bay, Caroline Cove and Hurd Point.

Russian explorer Thaddeus Bellingshausen visited Macquarie Island in 1820 and reported that a total of 40 men were working on the island. He also left an interesting description of the sealers hut at Sandy Bay which was:

20 feet long by 10 feet broad, inside it was lined with skins of seals, the outside was covered with a kind of grass which grows on the island. At one end was a small hearth, and a lamp was always kept alight. ... Beside the hearth was a bedstead. Provisions were stored at the other end of the hut. Inside it was so black and dark from the smoke that the smouldering light from the lamp and from the holes in the wall over which bladders were stretched, scarcely lit the interior of the hut, and until we got accustomed to the light the sealers had to lead us by

David

[davclem]

Re REply 223 Catherine Rourke alias Catherine Rook(e), sealer. It just gets more confusing the more you dig- now Catherine Rourke has morphed into Bourke, and has been massacred in 1809 .,a year before she is in the crew of Perserverance with Jamed Macanally!

•   1809    70 Europeans killed when the ship the Boyd was sacked and the crew massacred in Whangaroa Harbour,  Northland. one woman, one girl, one boy and a baby spared and later rescued.  Those killed included passengers: Ann GLOSSOP, ]Catherine BOURKE [/font] (or ROURKE), R W WRATHER, James MOORE, John BUDDEN, Robert THOMAS, Mordica MARKS, John PETTY, Thomas MARTIN, William ALLEN, John THOMAS, William MAHONEY, Denis DESMOND.

David

[Wiggy]

THANKS David - that's really a great help - - - -to our historic knowledge anyway!   laughing.

Just what we needed!    You really should have been a history teacher - ah well, never too late to start and use whoever is closest as class!!

Thanks Robyn!!  I'll give it a try - I think!  Will have to print out your instructions first so I can keep referring back to them!!!

Wiggy

[Wiggy]

Just what we needed!    You really should have been a history teacher - ah well, never too late to start and use whoever is closest as class!!

Will ask Library tomorrow re 'Iron Men in Wooden Ships'

Brilliant Robyn  - thank you - I knew how to do the edit paste thingy but hot how to put it in blue - now I do!!    Wonderful isn't it - learn something new every day!!


Wiggy

[Wiggy]

Iron Men in Wooden Ships - the Sydney Sealers 1800-1820    Dr Hainsworth

Article in Labour History   Issue  13 (1967 : Nov)  page 19.

Will see if it is available - trawl of library doesn't say so, but I was looking for a book - will now trawl for Labour History!  And yes it is spelt that way - so presumably not the Labor Party.   Lots of references to the Communists though.


Wiggy

[majm]

Hi All,

Re messages 225 and 235 and Eleanor Russell reference.  I added the info about Eleanor for anyone in the future who may come across this thread while researching Catharine McNalty.  Both those women were tried together, so it is likely they were co-horts. 

Still searching for Thomas' friend, Catharine Christina McNally.  (And for Rook, Rooke, Rourke, Bourke, O'Rourke etc and also variations on McNally).   

I have a decent supply of Tim Tams on standby so hopefully I will have something useful to contribute shortly.


JM