Author Topic: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1820: MCNALLY Catharine; AMOS T: STIEGLITZ  (Read 68088 times)

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #171 on: Thursday 30 July 09 10:32 BST (UK) »
NO, definitely not out-running the bump!!

No bumps for that couple!  More likely wanting to get hands on the money quickly - Fred that is!  Only 11 months since Thomas died - even though he and Catharine weren't married, they'd been together for a nymber of years as an apparently harmonious couple.

It is odd about the lack of detail in the records isn't it?  Did you look at the site which tells you all about record details - I guess you've been there many times before - I have to revisit every time I want to check what I am likely to find!

Will put a post on Irish board as you suggest - no harm and you never know your luck!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #172 on: Thursday 30 July 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
JM,  JM,  Are you there???      ;D

 - the most wonderful thing has happened!   The reply came from Ireland - pointing me in the direction of this very thread!! 

We seem to know more than anyone else!!!      ;)

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #173 on: Friday 31 July 09 01:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Wiggy,

Sorry I wasn't here when you last posted.

Thrilled to bits though, so

Keep Searching.

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #174 on: Friday 31 July 09 05:26 BST (UK) »
Just to add to the confusion,

The surname MCNALLY -here's some examples of variations of that surname found in NSW early records (1788-1825):

McAnelly
McAnnally 
McAnnella
McAnnelly
McAnulty
McNally
McNalty
McNulty


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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #175 on: Friday 31 July 09 08:27 BST (UK) »
Wiggy,

Only 5 marriages in NSW of  a Catharine to a male surname MC*,4 for Catherine one a dupication for  the Clemens one below. none for Christina or Christiana.1778-1818

only 2 close enough to be contracted to McNally

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no children in the indexfor either couple.

BUT see this birth: (*) (can't find a death in NSW for John MC!!)

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Robyn
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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #176 on: Friday 31 July 09 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Robyn,

Do you think the birth entry is for parents John and Catherine and son John??   Is that your  reading of the combination?    - very interesting - could be on to something there!!

Keep it up JM - seen your posts in Ireland as well!  Thanks for the extra push!

Thanks for the help both of you!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #177 on: Friday 31 July 09 10:28 BST (UK) »
JM,

Re reply 167 - have just re-read what you wrote - I was under the impression I was reading original church register - but maybe it was a transcript - it was in a book with other marriages on the same page - and looked original - but now I am wondering if it was a handwritten transcription.   Certainly it was only a quarter of A4 size paper ( - or thereabouts) - not one or two pages as now.  I have my grandmothers marriage certificate from Launceston in 1907 - and that was a much bigger affair - so -   I will just have to return to Tassie and look again.  I  was under the impression that the church registers form that time ago were now held at the Library - which is why I took it for an original document.

Hmmmmm.      :-\

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #178 on: Friday 31 July 09 10:42 BST (UK) »
Robyn - reckon you might be going to take the prize!   Terrific research!

This could be the family who was taken to Launceston with the Cummings family - about reply no 136 - I think.  We thought about them but couldn't be sure the wife was named Catherine.  What you have found may possibly be the clincher to one of the questions.

Wiggy     :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #179 on: Saturday 01 August 09 00:43 BST (UK) »
Wiggy..

Just thinking out side the square and doing what you were planing on doing but also duplicating others work too unfortunately.

But while I didn't look past 1820, JM had found this:
Quote
and an 1822 death for a John McNalley, aged 32

 
does tie in with Dave's find

Quote
MR. CUMMINGS, of Port Dalrymple, gives
Notice of his intention to return to that Set-
tlement by the Brothers, Colonial Vessel ; and of
his intention also to take down with him (under a
yearly engagement) John McNally and Wife. SG 6/1/1816

Still lots of work to do here.

good hunting all

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany