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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #153 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 08:20 BST (UK) »
HI,

This is one piece of information checked out early in the saga.And her old BAileey record has also been supplied and discussed.

The general agreement is that this is not the Catherine Christiana being researched. I have just spent time rereading all the posts from the very first trying to brainstorm more ideas about where to look.

Of course not all records are aailble online for convicts in the UK and unless you kneow where they were convicted and can contact local agencies then you are unable to follow that path.

Most convicts were well documented after their arrival in Australia.

Most marines/soldiers etc were well documented up unil they left the service and then things get hard to trace.

Most of the times their wives and families were not recorded at all or merley Mrs??? and children.

Most early free settlers were not documented at all merely listed as passengers etc and unless you are fortunate enough to find a newspaper report, gazette listing, or name in a government file re land, muster etc then tracing them is almost impossible.

We have  term for our unexplained ancestors "swimmers" how else did they get here????

I still have a swimmer to find back in 1825/1826 aged 7!!! Must have been really fit!!

Wiggy, I'm still cogitating abut getting nowhere yet.

regards

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #154 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 08:35 BST (UK) »
I promise "I WONT GO THERE"

Ummm, but I umm, really don't know where else to look at this minute! 

Ummm, did you know that my brickwall chap W A L K E D all the way from Cambridgeshire England to Prospect NSW Australia, via Wellington NZ - he couldn't swim!

Sorry, I will try to think of alternative places to seek YOUR Catherine out!

JM
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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #155 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 08:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Robyn,

I had Catharine listed on the 'swimmers log' for a while, but took her off when I heard about David's first version of events - I think I should have waited a little bit longer!  

We'll get there - might not be tomorrow but - - -   With extra Rootschatters all thinking we'll either come up with the answer or get into an even bigger tangle!

Wiggy





Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #156 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 10:07 BST (UK) »
Just wanted to put all your minds at rest - Cap't John Cummings  in reply 139 was resting in 'peace' - not 'puce' - you will be glad to hear!   It was playing on my mind!  I couldn't bear to let him remain in puce. :D
Computers don't know everything after all!!!    (OK, OK,   I know you knew all along - but . . . )

Thank goodness I've straightened out that one!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #157 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 12:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Y'all,

Keep the vibes going ,please-this has to be solved now and not let peter out! I've just trawled McNeally and Mackeneal but he (James)complained that his wife was seduced by Darcy Wentworth in 1822, so they're out

JM, doesn't Catherine of the Sydney Cove fit the bill beautifully- congratulations on having found her anyway. Her legacy to me is that I now have to find out what happened to Bryan Overend, last seen in the water as the Emu sinks in Simons bay at Krynsna at Cape Colony in 1817

I shall go and sit on her grave at Cullenswood on Friday and ask her for a clue

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #158 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 12:58 BST (UK) »
 . . . . .and I'll look after her GGGGG-granddaughter and GGGGG-grandson to make sure they come to no harm.   Then I'll light a candle for her on Sunday!

Please don't say a word re Sydney Cove Catherine  JM -   David has to learn to get over Bryan!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #159 on: Thursday 30 July 09 00:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Y'all,

Keep the vibes going ,please-this has to be solved now and not let peter out! I've just trawled McNeally and Mackeneal but he (James)complained that his wife was seduced by Darcy Wentworth in 1822, so they're out

JM, doesn't Catherine of the Sydney Cove fit the bill beautifully- congratulations on having found her anyway. Her legacy to me is that I now have to find out what happened to Bryan Overend, last seen in the water as the Emu sinks in Simons bay at Krynsna at Cape Colony in 1817

I shall go and sit on her grave at Cullenswood on Friday and ask her for a clue

David

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #160 on: Thursday 30 July 09 00:32 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

So have you eliminated this lass?

MCANULTY, Catherine 1810 May 26 Departing Newcastle for Sydney per "Lady Nelson" by order of Governor; appears as McKinnulty (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.15)  (NSW State Records online index)

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Re: Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1821: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #161 on: Thursday 30 July 09 00:39 BST (UK) »
Or this one?

MCCAULEY, Mrs  1823 On list of persons owing quit rents in Van Diemen's Land; for land in the District of York (Fiche 3270; X19 p.16)  (NSW State Records)

Although there's no first name, tis VDL - but ...... I'm not sure of the location of the District of York.

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