Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1820: MCNALLY Catharine; AMOS T: STIEGLITZ

[regross]

Wiggy,

AJCP is in the state library, need to check references to the regiment in its index FIRST to locate the right reels to look at. (ask for help at front desk if needed)

PROV only good for Victoria records not interstate.

JAMES/JOHN?  I think we can agree that it MAY be the one person I have a JAMES/THOMAS in UK census same wife and children and place of birth and in Tas records  CHARLES/THOMAS referring to the one man. But as Dave says could be a brother etc. Too early to call.

Dave

I like the scenario

Catharine ROOK may have accompanied her brother on his voyage to Australia.

JohnMacanally leaving colony, allclaims etc, per Brig Rosetta Sydney Gazette 16/12/1815, sealing and salt at Kangaroo Island and return, Captain William Rook

 family in the IGI:parents Samuel & Ann

19 SEP 1785 WILLIAM ROOK
Gender: Male Christening:  Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

11 FEB 1788 CATHARINE ROOK -
Gender: Female Christening: Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

02 JAN 1792 GEORGE ROOK
Gender: Male Christening:  Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

There may of course have been a marriage by the captain(brother) at sea or they may have married before leaving the UK ( both hard to trace) but ships records may be another avenue to look at.

I wonder if they are laughing at us taking all this time and effort to find them?

let's keep hunting

Robyn
   

[regross]

Dave,

Done some "trawling" of shipping recordsat  http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/mariner1.htm (This site was an invaluable resource but is hard to find nnow as it's webmaster has altered whow she does online material)

and noted in http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/mariner7.htm

Rook - Capt      master of Elizabeth &  Mary/sealing/NZ      1819

seems he may have been empoyed on different ships.

checked my other online sources and records dating back to that time are next to impossible to locate.among them a great linking site:

http://rmhh.co.uk/mariners.html

would be great to link descendants of William Rook and MARy Huxtable with those of Catharine MCNALLY as we know her and see if modern DNA testing could find a link!!!

I am enjpying the hunt.

regards

Robyn

[Wiggy]

Why do I feel as if I am swimming in a tidal wave??         Thinking of changing my stroke from dog-paddle to freestyle!!!

Doing well you two!      (And while you are testing the DNA, dig up T Snr from under the highway, and sort that out once and for all!)

Wiggy  - bringing up the rear! 

[regross]

Wiggy,
you might not realise it but I am trying to keep my imaginitis under control. Might be losing the battle thopugh

Robyn

[Wiggy]

Why hold it in Robyn - go for it!!     

I have written a ripping three act play for this story - only trouble is, the first Act is missing!   I live in hope!!  My script is a wonderful example of imaginitis though!   I'm quite taken with it really!  Modest about it too!   

Search the good search

Wiggy   

[majm]

Bit More,

Hi All,

Re the NSW birth 1811 for a boy named John, with parents John and Catherine.

The NSW BDM register shows TWO registrations for the ONE birth  (sometimes there can be at least three recordings of the ONE birth in those early records.  One registration is recorded in at line 2491 of Volume 1A with the surname recorded as ,MACANALTY and the other at line 233 of Volume 5 shows it as MACANALLY.

One volume was for the regiment, while the other volume was maintained by the Rev W Cowper, under the authority of the Penal Rules administered by the Governor as per Whitehall's regulations.  I understand that the variations in the spelling are caused by the clerks recording the information - they recorded what they HEARD based on their own accents, their own education etc.   Very occasionally, the maiden surname of the mother was also noted and sometimes that surname even appears online under the mother's given name.

I will try to figure out any clues to help as I intend to trawl through the NSW BDM online for births 1808-1919 with the mother's name as CathArine, and with wildcards for all other options. 

I have RBTT and don't think anyone else has checked NSW BDM that way. 

Cheers,

JM

[Wiggy]

Been thinking guys - Robyn, JM, David et al :

Some people play bridge, some do jigsaws/crosswords/sudoku etc,  some read the paper cover to cover - and others do family jigsaws!   That is all it is - a family jigsaw!!    (Thinking about what you said re family members laughing over our attempts to find them Robyn! )

 Now I feel justified to have another look at the puzzle!!      Thank goodness for that!

Have to leave time for community/family good works - but after that . . . . . .

a relieved      Wiggy      

What is RBTT JM?   I only know about Reading in Bed its Terrific RiBiT - from school!     

[majm]

Oh, Read Back Through Thread = RBTT

Just finished NSW bdm trawl, and sorry BUT Did NOT find any other possible children for Catharine McNally, but did notice that most births were recorded at least twice, spotted some of mine (1818 and later) were recorded 3 times.  - And so checked, and by 1827 birth of my own ggg grandmother - well she's there three times, I have pulled out my hardcopy, and can explain.  Once is her christening in Methodist faith, once is where it is transmitted to Rev Cowper, and once is where it is recorded in the Governor's records, (as her Dad came free and was working for the Government Administration).

Have to do some 21st Century things for family, so won't be back online until much later. 

Cheers,

JM

[Wiggy]

Got to keep 21st Century in focus - as well as oldies.  See you on your return!

Wiggy