Please help? RANSOM Thomas 1820: MCNALLY Catharine; AMOS T: STIEGLITZ

[Wiggy]

Queensland site won't let me in - say there's an error or something.

[regross]

Wiggy,


Sorry tired to give you a shor cut.  Try

http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts

and navigate from there

Robyn

[Wiggy]

Thanks Robyn - and there they are, both of them  - this is something I am going to have to work on!!     Both From Middlesex - as is the
Thomas Rawson and both for life - as is . . .  !    Very confusing - but Rawson isn't on the Third fleet according to QLD register- only the NSW list - I wonder - misspelling by someone I wonder??               Oh boy am I confused.

Wiggy

[regross]

Wiggy,

I had a look at the Old Bailey records
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/forms/formMain.jsp
and found

THOMAS RANSOM, defendant name in trial of WILLIAM SHERBERD, Theft > burglary; LUCY SHERBERD, Theft > burglary; THOMAS RANSOM, Theft > burglary; ELIZABETH RANSOM, Theft > burglary, 25th October 1786. 

The two men were found guily and given life but transported instead the two wives were found not guilty.

Thomas Ransom, defendant name in Supplementary material, 9th September 1789.
The following capital convicts accepted his Majesty's pardon, on condition of being transported for life . Thomas Vallame , Daniel Collins , William Shurberd , Thomas Ransom , William Bead , John Gervalt , William Allen , John Wright . Joseph Reay , Solomo...

From this it is impossible to say if he is the 1789 or1791 convict.

regards

Robyn

[Wiggy]

Wow, Robyn thanks so much!        I had the records for the 1786 trial but not the subsequent one.  That could make heaps of difference.    I will look into the second one.    I am continually astounded by the way all you folks find info - and the resources you seem to have.    Just re-read your note - those two Thomas's are the same person aren't they?    

I wonder if there is a site where I can find who went to Tasmania and who didn't?  As I said, the Tasmanian records show only one - and we believe that that one is the 1786  trial.  These are the texts from the bricks at Campbellltown - as I can't manage to attach the photos.

1)   Thomas Ransom, Age 20s, Scarborough 1790, life, Built Joiner's Arms Inn Hobart, AP58 SY

2)   Thomas Ransom, Age 48, Salamander 1791,  Burglary - life, Supervised Norfolk Is Evac.   BA 89.

On the strength of it, it would seem that the younger is more likely to be the father of our G.G. grandfather - but the Will we have would indicate that it is the older of the two.    Tricky

Thanks again,         

Wiggy 

[regross]

Wiggy,

Yes the two extracts are the referring to the same person. It is a pity that no age is given.

Have you had a look at the material in the Tassie Archives on the Thomas Ransom per Admiral Gambier  to PJ, then the Chapman to Tassie?

It is on page  242 of  CON31/1/34

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search
 
Not vert infomrative. You will need the NSW indent I feel.

regards

Robyn

[Wiggy]

Wiggy,

Yes the two extracts are the referring to the same person. It is a pity that no age is given.

Have you had a look at the material in the Tassie Archives on the Thomas Ransom per Admiral Gambier  to PJ, then the Chapman to Tassie?

It is on page  242 of  CON31/1/34

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search
 
Not vert infomrative. You will need the NSW indent I feel.



regards

Robyn

I am sorry to be so very ignorant, but I can't seem to find how to get to p242 con31/1/34.   I am into the tassie site but don't know where to go from there - hopeless that's me!       I've been in and out of various indexes but not the right one  obviously!

Wiggy

[majm]

Hi there,

Not sure if this will help but I think this is a direct link to that page

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON31-1-34,436,1,S,80 


JM

[regross]

Wiggy,

The given link works then put thenumber in the image box to 242 and wait for the image to appear.

Of course you haveto  have  found Thomas Ransom in the convict files on http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 on the first link  then by searching under convict records for his name, you then just click on the blue links

•   number 80639   
  then con/31/1/34
  then  click  CON31/1/34  View this record online

and you end up in the same place as the link.

Robyn