German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop

[annfrances]

I have found out recently that my gr grandfather was from Berlin Germany, his name was Rudolph Bishcoff/Bishop. The last trace of him was on the 1911 census. I have been told that he was interned by some of the family the others say he went back to Germany before ww1 started. I have looked at all the passenger list with no trace and have tried the Kew Archives with no luck either, on his marriage certificate it say's he worked in a suger refinery in Liverpool, I don't know when he came to England, but he married my gr grandmother in 1898 and had seven children. I am now trying to find out if he went back to Germany and if he did, where in Germany did he live. I have only just become a member and the information on this site helps a lot.

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

The sugar refinery was probably Tate & Lyle.  have a look at this link

http://www.scottiepress.org/gallery/tates.htm

[annfrances]

Thank you. I know that on the 1911 census he had left the suger refinery and went to work as a shipping clerk, I will have a read of your link and hopefully it might lead me to other things

[Rena]

this website shows the history of the sugar refiners and also has a list of Germans living in the UK in 1881

http://home.clara.net/mawer/sugarbbio.html

http://home.clara.net/mawer/history.html

Good luck
Rena

[CaroleW]

I see from the 1911 census that he was born 1867 and is shown as Rudolph Bishop

I cannot see an 1898 marriage for him under Bishop or Bishcoff nor can I find him on the 1901 to check his birthplace/occupation

[annfrances]

I do have the marriage certificate and i do know he was staying in a boarding house in Pluto street, Liverpool this is where he met my gr grandmother as it was her mother who run the boarding house. I read on one of the roots chat that if i get in touch with the Red cross in Genever they might have him on record and this might tell me where in Berlin he was born. I have tried the 1901 census and i could not find  any trace of them either.

[JustinL]

Have you looked for BISCHOF which is German for bishop? I do not believe that BISHCOFF exists.

Justin

[CaroleW]

His marriage reg (now found) was Rudolf Bischoff  not Rudolph Bishcoff

Sept qtr  1898  West Derby  8b  811 and he married Sarah Jones at St Mary's Kirkdale (LancsBMD)

Still cannot find them on the 1901  but they had a son b 1899

William Bischoff June qtr 1899 Liverpool  8b  124

and a daughter 1900

Ida Bischoff March qtr 1900 Liverpool 8b 17

[annfrances]

I have just checked his marriage cert he has signed it Rudolf Bischoff. I did not even notice maybe i will try the passenger list again with the right name this time. Thanks