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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Alex,

Thanks so much for all this information.  It's wonderful! :) 

Do you know much about Jane Steele?  Do you know where she was from and who her parents were?  Have sent you a PM with my email address but you'll only be able to view it after a couple more posts. 

Never thought I would find any relations on Rootschat, it's great to have found one! ;D

Cheers,
Deb
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 17:31 BST (UK) »
Deborah I have tried to send you transcriptions of the letters and a narrative I wrote about Leah Langston Howman to the email you provided but I am unsure if they reached you. Please let me know Alex

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06 October 11 11:40 BST (UK) »
Martin Bolton Langston was born 22 July 1795 and christened on 23/10/1795 in Chipping Campden. The IGI entry is under "Longston" which is why his birth is hard to find! He was married in London as per previous posts. He was a tailor (listed in a Gloucestershire directory) and may have been in London during an apprenticeship. I have not searched apprenticeship records. There is a reference in a family bible that wife Jane Steel was christened on 6/10/1798. The only matching IGI entry is a Jane Steel from Holme Cultran, Cumbria. The IGI entry for Martin's birth lists Jane Longston as the mother, with no father named. This suggests Martin was illegitimate. As per previous posts Sarah married George Taylor in 1812 in Chipping Campden. In the Gloucestershire Record Office, there are bastardy records for many years either side of 1795. They should not be difficult to search and if we are lucky, we will find out who Martin's father is. As I am in Australia, I have not followed this up. I have not found any reference to the Bolton name in my work. I have not been able to positively identify Sarah Langston's (Longston's) birth. As noted earlier, she was listed in the 1841 census as "born out of the county"
Jane Steels parents appear to be William Steel (b 1757)and Susan Osmotherley, (b 1764)both of whom were christened in Holme Cultran, but there is also a William Steel born in Chipping Campden in 1768.
Would appreciate any further news.
Ted Russell
Martin was my ggggfather, through his daughter Clara who emigrated to Australia in the very early 1850's.

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #12 on: Friday 07 October 11 10:30 BST (UK) »
Great to get a reply from you Ted. The only information I have on this side of my family is what I have been able to find on the IGI and from the replies to my post. The replies have included a wealth of information and I've been able to fill in a lot of my missing branches on my family tree. I'm also in Australia and descended from Leah Langston. If I come across any further info will definitely pass it on.
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France


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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #13 on: Friday 07 October 11 11:31 BST (UK) »
Debbie
Alex Wood is probably the best person to contact re the Leah side of the family. I am descended from Clara who emigrated to Adelaide in 1852. These are my notes about Clara
  CLARA MAY LANGSTON
     b chipping camden 17/3/1821 52.03n 1.46w 25 miles nw of oxford-times 56 h3
listed 1841 census in the hamlet of Berrington at Littleworth (at Chipping Campden) as age 20 living with Charles (69) and Sarah Taylor (67) and Leah Sarah and Charles. Interestingly Alfred is not listed, although he may have been listed as living with a neighbouring family named Blakeman (this unclear as the whole family is bracketed as a unit but Alfred's surname is blank, he is the correct age and there are few families in Littleworth). Charles is listed as an agricultural labourer and born in the county; Sarah is listed as not born in the county.
Clara is listed in the 1851 census at Chipping Campden entry 186 Littleworth living with her sister Leah,  Leah's husband and 2 children
     arrived australia on sultana 7/10/1852,left plymouth 19/6/1852 seamstress
     assisted migrant
     there was a family story that her fiancee in England was killed on the way to their wedding in a train
     accident.
     It has also been suggested that she was encouraged to emigrate by the minister who married her,
     who may have been in the Chipping Campden area but left for Australia before Clara.
     letter from brother alfred before she left dated june 1852  and several letters from her family form a
    remarkable family record. Originals  held by Liz Murray, hard copies and CD compiled by Kelvin
     Smibert in possession of many in family
     spinster,seamstress ur glenelg when married                                                                                                                                     
    d geelong 29/4/1883 5220 at noble st newtown and chiswell
    cause cancer of uterus
     her father was martin bolton langston-tailor
    b chipping garden 22/7/1795 d 16/2/1837(family record)
    martin listed as tailor in 1830 gloustershire survey at chipping campden
    samuel langston boot and shoe mfr also listed-ref rhmf 211
    campden had 1700-2000 people 1821-1894 but no Langstons in 1861 census, although Clara's sister leah lived with her husband George Taylor and 6 children.
I am in Melbourne. Are you?
Ted Russell

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 October 11 09:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Ted,

I've been in contact with Alex, he's been a great help with information as well. I'm not that far from you I'm in New South Wales, not sure but I think you've already got my email address, Alex passed on your email address to me. Leah is my great grandmother's mother so that means we're third or fourth cousins???

Cheers,
Debbie
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 October 11 09:45 BST (UK) »
Debbie
I have emailed the Gloucester Record Office for some specific information about Martin Bolton Langston and his mother Sarah. A standard reply should arrive in two weeks. Will let you know the result
Ted

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Re: Saint Mary, Lewisham, Kent Marriage Lookup please *COMPLETED, WITH THANKS*
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 October 11 08:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ted, that would be great!!!
Debbie
TAYLOR - Leeds, Yorkshire
HOWMAN - Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire
HOPKINS - Tydd St Giles, Cambridgeshire
COOPER - Rutland, Lincolnshire
CORNALY - Paimpol, France

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 10 October 14 12:24 BST (UK) »
Martin Bolton Langston's birth in 1795 was recorded as Longston in the IGI. Bastardy records for Chipping Campden in 1796show that mother Sarah was single and that the father was Martin Bolton. There is more than one Sarah Langston born in Gloucestershire in the 1770's so it seems difficult to trace her ancestry. Sarah married George Taylor in 1812 and as reported in another post looked after the Langston children after Martin and his wife Jane died in the 1830's.
Does anyone have information about Martin Bolton Langston as an apprentice tailor in London. I suspect the Langstons were poor and the parish paid for Martin's apprenticeship but that is just a guess
Ted Russell