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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #18 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan,

No Roger did not change occupations - that was William who was a tailor - listed in 1851 census when I looked up William I seem to remember.

By his death cert. Roger was listed as engine driver!  Family history is that he was working on the construction of the Yan Yean Dam/Reservoir for Melbourne - and that was largely a quarrying job - long stone/rock wall.

Roger's marriage cert for Louisa is dated 25 Mar 1850 and he is listed as widower and she as widow.  His father is John - labourer  .  Hers is William Hine (Hyne) - blacksmith     Roger's rank/profession is listed as Labourer.   Age for both is just listed as full age.

Witnesses to the marriage are hard to read - John -eitey ? maybe,  and Henry Kelland or Holland - don't know.    Parish Church of England in Stokenham.

Does this help?   ???   ;)      Thanks again!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #19 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:02 BST (UK) »
Sorry, now see you said William ;D :-[

So only the age problem which is probably a mistake as he would otherwise be far too young to have William and Elizabeth as children. Another check to do would be to make sure there is not a Roger Percy/Pearcy born Devon c1816 elsewhere in 51 or still in England in 1861.

I think you most probably have the right Roger - although sadly no further forward with your original quest to find him on a ship to Australia!

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #20 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:21 BST (UK) »
I have tried the 1861 census and can't find a Roger to fit the bill - also we know 'ours' was in Australia by then.   but I gather you mean to rule out someone else -  . . I'm getting a bit lost on this one!  Senior moment maybe!!

Really appreciate your help!   :)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #21 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:26 BST (UK) »
Do you have access to lists leaving England?  I see you are in West Sussex.  I can only find lists arriving in Victoria or arriving in England on our Public Records indexes.

Maybe it is possible to find him leaving 'Old Blighty'.    He is one of my ancestors who didn't go straight to the gold fields!  Well, I don't think so anyway.

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #22 on: Friday 22 May 09 21:07 BST (UK) »
Yes I just meant re-checking censuses to double check you do have the right Roger in 41 - although I think there is little doubt due to the presence of the William and Elizabeth.

Sorry I have no access to shipping lists leaving England for the relevant time frame. Someone else might happen along who does.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #23 on: Friday 22 May 09 23:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jan - I'll keep looking!   ;)

Many thanks for help you are giving.

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 04 June 09 23:38 BST (UK) »
Replying to your suggestions in PM Robyn - thanks for that  - I've been having a look.

 I found the Percy in 1854 on the NSW marine indexes - don't think it can be correct although we don't have a date for the child born in 1855 - to be in Australia and moving from Melbourne to Sydney in July - well it is pushing it a bit I reckon.    ::)

I also found the Richard Percy in 1857 Victorian incoming index some time ago, and I'm inclined to think this is more likely - I had this one saved to my thinking about it box!   Failing other information I'm going to keep it there as 'most likely sighting'!   :-\

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 06 June 09 02:58 BST (UK) »

So, How does one verify that the Richard M G Persey on the 'Pomona' in May 1857 age 46,  was, in reality, Roger Percy aged 41 and father of the family (also spelt Persey) who came out two months earlier??  Have had other occasions where the ages are wrong and spelling is up the creek - but . . . .? :-\   Richard does seem to have been travelling alone - is that hopeful?   ::)   ;D

 I'll willingly run off to the PROV but previous experience tells me that will not add much to the sum of knowledge.

(Beautiful day here - but we need RAIN RAIN and MORE RAIN.)     :D

Cheers,

Wiggy 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 06 June 09 09:57 BST (UK) »
Does seem hopeful but the 'M G' bothers me - do you have any evidence of Roger having middle names?

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge