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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 21 May 09 00:20 BST (UK) »
Forgot:  We have them in the 1851 census in UK, and Roger in the 1841 census.   Also from death certificates - Roger's, in 1898, says he had been in the colony for 41 years suggesting he arrived in about 1857. 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 21 May 09 10:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for posting the extra info. Could you post the full details you have for 1841 and 1851? And any other more specific information- if we have more detail especially any place-names in Devon someone may have more luck finding him.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 21 May 09 11:48 BST (UK) »
Discrepancies in his birth year....
1841 HO107/232/book3/..Lammerton
William Percy age 40 farmer
Ann wife age 30
Roger son age 12..All born in county.
1851 census Lammerton.....HO 107/1875/113/page 2.
Roger head age 25 quarry agent
Louisa wife age 25                   born Cornwall
William son age 15  born Cornwall
Elizabeth dau age 14      ""
Bessy dau age 2        born Devon
Kate dau age 11 mths  ""....
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 21 May 09 12:01 BST (UK) »
This is strange..IGI has 4 submitted entries..
Roger Percy born 1829 Lamerton to William and Ann ,died 1906 in Nairne Australia.
Roger Percy born Lamerton 1816,father Jonathan Percy...
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />


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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 21 May 09 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Hepburn

Thanks for posting the 1851 - it is very puzzling.

The Roger Percy you have posted son of William and Ann in 1841 is the one I found. According to WiggyHobbes info Roger should be with first wife Elizabeth and son William and and possibly daughter Elizabeth in 1841 but going on his age in 51 he would be only 15, 10 when William junior was born ???

Just noticed William junior was born in Cornwall. Hmmm

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 May 09 12:30 BST (UK) »
This must be the Roger WiggyHobbes has in 1841

Lantiylos Cornwall
Rodger Pearcy 25 Ag Lab N
Elizabeth do 27 Y
William do 5 Y
Elizabeth do 3 Y
HO107/140/8/24 Pg13

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 May 09 23:58 BST (UK) »
 :-* :-*  Great work folks.

Yes that is the entry I have for the 1841 census - Percy spelt Pearcy on the lists.

 And now that I am looking hard again I notice that the Roger who married Louisa is indeed listed as being 25 ( ;D the only time anyone's age has stood still for 10 years! :P)   However, do you think the age could have been transcribed wrongly in the 1851 entry because his death certificate shows he died in 1898 ages 82 (born 1816)! 

Death cert also indicates that his first marriage was to a 'Margaret' Male and that his two first children, William and Elizabeth as listed, were born in 1834 and 1837ish.   It really is a mystery which needs sorting out.  Maybe the 1841 census entry I have saved is not the one I want - odd though.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 May 09 00:08 BST (UK) »
More Info - I think William was born in Cornwall and Elizabeth was registered at Camelford (in Cornwall?) - we have it that Roger was working at Lanteglos as a quarry man.  When he married Louisa he was back in Devon at Stokenham, (Quarry Cottage), and there is evidence of them all living there in 1851.   Louisa's first children with Roger were registered in Kingsbridge, Devon.  William was working as a Tailor in 1851 according to entry.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Roger Percy - migration
« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

It remains puzzling. The presence of William and Elizabeth as son and daughter in 1851 lends weight to the 1841 Pearcy entry as being correct but there is the age and occupation discrepancy. People did change occupation- my lot did it all the time - but I would feel slightly wary of Quarry man to Tailor, a skilled occupation, and would want to investigate further. I think you need to go back to what you know to be absolute fact, which seems to be the marriage of Roger to Louisa, and double check everything. I take it you have their marriage certificate - what is all the info on it including witnesses?

The age in 51 could be a mistake and again needs backing up from other sources.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge